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1567  Date: 2007-10-03 17:48:58
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Ok it's about 2 hours later and my post is finally on. It's 1562 and not a very interesting post. What made it interesting to me was that someone is reviewing our posts periodically and I would really like to know why!!

1566  Date: 2007-10-03 16:53:33
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

one hour later and still no post on here of my first post. Yes, John I too think it is the guestbook host people. I just want to know why and whether I should be putting some of my controversial comments on here. I really don't want some of those Homeland security people knocking on my door. Well so much for free speech huh!!

1565  Date: 2007-10-03 16:42:22
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sircher,
From my understanding the folks at the News Progress are not doing this and it is host folks (Guestbook.de)...
I have of course recieved the same thing a few times (more than a few)..sometimes it appears, but most of the times it does not. If they are being checked by someone, I doubt they are checking very often because there are not as many daily posts as there used to be. However this is of course all theory...LOL...

1564  Date: 2007-10-03 16:03:17
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

About 20 minutes later and my first message is not on here yet!!

1563  Date: 2007-10-03 15:46:32
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

The last message I posted just a couple of minutes ago gave me the message that it would have to be reviewed before it would be posted publicly and then I could not get it to reset so I could write this one so I clicked off the site and sure enough it is not on here. I wonder who is reviewing our posts and why!!! Does this have anything to do with the law passed that the government can now read all that we put on the web,emails, instant messages etc and listen in on our phone calls???

1562  Date: 2007-10-03 15:37:40
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I'm still here John. I've been checking the board pretty regularly but have been a little busy to write. Actually I did write one rather long letter in answer to you and Travis about Obama and the tazering of the kid and my viewpoints on the cops and the justice system but then I accidently ran my cursor across the reset button and lost the whole thing. Ticked me off so much at this laptop of mine I just got off and didn't try to re-write it. But my son and his family is leaving today to go back to his home in Alaska so I will have some time on my hands and I'll be on here even more now. They have been down here in San Diego for almost a year now for his medical treatments. I'm glad he is well enough to go home but he has a little 2 1/2 daughter I'm going to miss like h***. So keep posting everyone so I have something to do.

1561  Date: 2007-10-02 17:23:44
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Wow, me thinks this guestbook has passed away..;)

1560  Date: 2007-09-27 22:13:08
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Travis, I have looked and looked and not found anything. From what I recollect, Hillarys people found out the Muslim past thing..
Honestly I find it hard to trust any politican only because I think the ability to hide things and talk out ones rear end is part of the recommended traits..All of them do it, and I doubt if it ever stops. I also believe a democrat will be the next leader...however I have no idea what they will do. It would seem folks are getting tired of being lied to and they may be under more scruitiny..but hard to tell. I suppose that is the bad part of really having total freedom and the communication systems we have. Essentially we know just about everything that occurs, sometimes years later...Now the years later thing seems to be going away...so we have immediate access to a lot more than we did. I am not sure how good this is for a society because in reality there are a lot of things that folks probably do not want to know.
If you think about it, the deaths in Iraq are extremely low compared to other wars or "conflicts"..yet a kind of kudos is not given in that direction...Also hell raising that occurs seems to be broadcast all over the place, where in the past we either did not find out, or found out too late.

1559  Date: 2007-09-27 00:50:34
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John it is his whole name not just obama..I will locate it again and post..And in all reality it means nothing but political mumbo jumbo i just find it interesting..I know i will probably get jumped on this but i cannot tolerate another republican in the white house..I am sorry but Bush is a ignorant ass and in my view has REALLY gave his party a black eye..However i cannot tolerate a dummycrat in the house either but we all know unfortunately i think a dummycrat will be our next leader..Especially since the future first husband is good friends with Bush number 1 which means bush number 2 is probably in there with 1st hubby billy also..So in my opinion and opinions are like A@#holes and we all got one...We will have a bigger mess on our hands then we do i think in the next 4-8 yrs..I have a hard time seeing the light at the end of the tunnell.

1558  Date: 2007-09-26 20:24:25
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Travis:
The Prophet Mohammed's favorite mare was "Al-Awra", "The one eyed mare". I have looked everywhere for the horse thing but have not found it. Find me where that translates into Obama and I will of course tell you that you are right. Obama goes to a black theology church, I guess the same one Oprah attends. As far as the Muslim back ground, I believe he went to a Muslim school for four years as a kid in indonesia, however I am not sure that would make him a Muslim. His father named him Hussein, however he has never used that name. I was babtized at the First Church of God in Sullivan..(Pressure from deceased grandmother)..however I do not claim to be of any religion. So again, not sure if any of this means anything. What does it all mean? Proably nothing but politics.
I tend to agree concering the student, I have been in situations where I have seen authorities overeact..(myself included)..Unfortunatly most policies are written in black and white..Meaning, a response is given based on an action, and no more thought is put into it. If a cop tells you to do something, you must simply do it. (Not that I agree with that thought process, however it will keep you alive). The other thing concerning this matter is that several incidents have occurred on that campus with Tazers...heck the incidents are happening all over the country. There are several folks that have actually died from the tazer. I have had the lucky experience of being tazed three times..(During training at a prison)..They do tend to light one up a bit...
I can say, I do not believe the student really said anything, he kept asking a question, and of course was supposed to yield to the floor for others to ask questions because it was not supposed to be a one on one interview..(wrong forum for taking other peoples chances for asking).
As far as the tunnel, I do not believe we are headed there, I believe we are in the middle of it. Again, do I believe the 9 idiots involved in the situation were right? Heck no...but do I understand it..I suppose so. Do I agree with them...no...
FMC,
I am not so sure everything would be different, the fact is, the bombing would have still occurred, and my guess is, regardless of who was president we would have retaliated. Now, would we have sent guys in on foot, I have no idea, if one talks to most vets they will tell you that the thing could have been over with if we fought from 30,000 feet...(Bomb them until they are extinquished)..

1557  Date: 2007-09-26 13:33:18
Poor Andrew Meyer ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

'Don't Tase Me, Bro!'

1556  Date: 2007-09-26 00:13:52
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Here is some food for thought also.....The bin ladens of the world are estatic about hillary running for president..Also i read something in regards to Obahma's name recentely and found out yes he is a muslim which is great cause not all muslims are radical terrorist however his name is also the name of muhammad"s horse that being of course in muslim translations..I found that interesting..
Did anyone hear about the college student in florida i belive who got tazered by police officers at a john kerry speaking last week? Hmm that pretty much sums up our freedom of speech..
I am sorry i just firmly belive that there is way too much government and not enuff people who are willing to stand up to this government..I applaud the student who spoke his mind and got his questions out there to be heard..I hope the policemen who stunned him after they already had him contained(9 officers i think) all get fired...and loose there pensions...If nothing is done on this matter that right there will literally tell me right there that we are definately heading towards a deep dark tunnel in american democracy...

1555  Date: 2007-09-25 23:08:52
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

They need to have govenors that are brothers ;)

1554  Date: 2007-09-25 19:15:16
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I think we should start 'copying' all posts before hitting the 'write down' button and paste it to a Word document, in case s&*t happens like in John's case (if your post is long and you're concerned about losing it). I have made a habit of it due to a bad internet connection at home...got tired of writing a long e-mail and then once I hit 'send' I get a "this page cannot be displayed."
I used to vote 'liberal,' but over the years I have found out that seems to be worse because it takes away from the Democrats' votes. I voted for the first time in the 2000 election, and had I (and thousands others ) voted for ol' Al, things might be different today. Not that I'm always a fan of the Democrat candidates...but to me it usually seems slightly better than the other. I definitely lean toward the liberal candidates, but unfortunately they never seem to win.

1553  Date: 2007-09-24 21:25:23
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Why thank you....;)

1552  Date: 2007-09-24 15:42:55
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Happy Belated Birthday John!

1551  Date: 2007-09-23 21:28:13
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Travis,
I have to ask...You seem to be a Reagan fan..That is wonderful, however I have to ask, what exactly did his reign do for your family?
I know:
1. He supplied weapons to Hussein
2. He supplied weapons to Bin Laden
3. Iran-contra
4. Supported Central American Death Squads
5. Thought Nelson Mandella was a terrorist
5. Invaded Granada
6. He could have helped with stem cell research and was vehemently opposed to it. The Europeans are now using Stem Cell to possibly cure Diabetes and Alzheimer's amongst others. Nancy is not happy about that.
7. Oh, yeah, he was one that turned on his hollywood folks by denounching many as communists.
8. Busted the Traffic Controllers Union.
9. Pardons for FBI lawbreakers
10. Tax Cuts for the rich
11, C.I.A.-sponsored car-bombing in Lebanon (more than eighty civilians killed)
12. For all those super religious folks out there..Ronald Wilso Reagen...666

1550  Date: 2007-09-21 13:51:35
burl ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

now i am mad i wrote a 2 hour disertation and it never made it up. Oh well I will have to once again channel the ghost of John Adams and redo it. Do you know how hard it is to call out the spirits of dead 18th century politicians?

1549  Date: 2007-09-21 01:34:17
curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John and Burl, I will be in San Diego for Tay's graduation. Can you make it over there? Oct 19,20, and 21? Let me know. In fact, I will call you later John. Tanx

1548  Date: 2007-09-21 01:19:53
curtis ( illinoy13@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:

Hey good guys, still here!

1547  Date: 2007-09-21 00:38:27
travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

i vote liberal so i could care less about hillary or obahma..As far i am concerned the dummycrats are just that "dummy's" and after regan i think the republicans have basically done nothing for me or my country..

1546  Date: 2007-09-20 22:18:10
burl ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Oh something I forgot to mention is my brother's unnatural love for democratic wonderkid Barack Obama, he is nothing more than a new version of the old scene once again do not be fooled. If you for one minute think that a person rises through he ranks of today's political scene without being either a puppet or an amazing liar. Look at the history of Chicago politiians can any of you name the last honest politician to come out of Chicago. I sure can not. And honestly if you have experience really what is the reason for trying to get the job other than ego and self-satisfaction. Trust no politician be it local or federal for they all what they are politicians. Oh, by the why, I have petitioned Webster's dictionary to modify the definiton of politician to a much more accurate one- LIAR

1545  Date: 2007-09-18 21:16:36
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sircher, I tend to agree on all points. Damn it, this is getting disappointing..LOL...
For many they get more by being on welfare..(simply because they are currently getting nothing.
Getting angry or upset over this is kind of a waste of time. Imagine getting ticked at someone because they do not want to quit their job to make perhaps 10k or better a year less than they already make. (unless of course they are doing it because they like ti)..Makes no sense.
Legalizing drugs seems like it would make a very good tax base. I know plenty of people that would not mind jogging down to the store and picking up a pack of joints. Hell, I would probably join them in the run every once in a while.
If drugs were legal (some)...I personally do not believe cops would care who the druggies were because they would not be doing anything except sitting at home eating doritos..(depending on the drug of course)..As for Sherriff Joe, there is rumor he is going to appear on a reality show. He would not comment to a news crew that asked him wheter this was real or a rumor, but honestly that idiot loves publicity.
Oh to a poster...concerning the Clintons actions..I saw the results of the 9/11 commission. They were advised of a potential threat early on, however there was no real clear evidence..(smoking gun in a hand, so they stood back..However Bush folks recieved a daily briefing titled "Ben Laden intends on attacking the United states). (from Rices testimony)...only a week before it happened. I guess this kind of proves my point...Anyone would have fought back once attacked...Again...two experienced politicians decided not to act..time for "green" to step forward.

1544  Date: 2007-09-18 21:04:54
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

If we are going to start messing around with welfare, how about we start with welfare for the rich. Oh, they call it another name but it's the same thing. It's getting money from the government,most often for doing nothing. Maybe we could start off by thinking about farm subsidies? I do believe the welfare could stand some oversight and maybe a time limit for getting it. I believe in a hand up but not a handout. The social stigma of welfare has changed considerably since my husband and I were married at barely eighteen years old. No education beyond high school, no experience etc. and there were plenty of times we darn near went hungry but we would have eat dirt before we would have applied for welfare. Now I don't think we should go back to that way of thinking but maybe we could have some programs (actually they already have some)to help people give up the free money. Maybe the minimum wage could be raised enough so the people on welfare could see the advantage of getting off welfare.
Of couse the above comments does not address the issue of using welfare money to buy drugs or alcahol. But think about it. If they aren't getting money from welfare to support their habit they may be robbing your house for items to pawn or robbing banks or whatever. Then if they are caught and convicted and sent to jail we will still be supporting them.
I go one step further than John. I think most drugs should be legalized. Let them go to the drugstore and pick up their drugs and sign for them. I think it would be helpful in a lot of ways. The cops then would know who the druggies were. They wouldn't be committing so many crimes to get money to buy drugs and therefore we wouldn't have to build so many penitenturies or pay thousands of dollars to keep them while they are there. That is all but those that go to sheriff Joe. Right John?

1543  Date: 2007-09-17 04:25:59
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Interesting theory, however what about alcohol? Sure its legal, but it probably causes more problems that those things that are in Urine tests?
How about requiring documents to how the money was spent. Did they purchase sales goods?
At the track? Buying twinkies? Buying pop?..Think about it, when you open one of the cans one can never tell whats going to come next. Now, out of curiousity...Each time you get your paycheck you have to pass a random Urine test? Partner I have news for you, even if you do not pass the Urine test, they still have to give you a paycheck..Perhaps your last...but never the less, they have no other choice..If it turns out they catch you being naughty...then of course they can fire you..SO in reality I think that you have a job where you must remain clean or lose the job..Not remain clean or lose the paycheck.
Should they have to pass a urine test to get welfare...interesting concept, not sure...but then again, I am not against the use of all drugs..(His and boo all you desire folks)..I personally know a few people that I think should use drugs...;)
What percentage do you think would lose assistance if tested for drugs (+alchol)...(yeah its the same but some like to have it spelled out)...Do you think it would lower it by 50%...60%..lower? Higher..what is your assumption?

1542  Date: 2007-09-17 03:45:22
think about it ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Like a lot of folks in this country...I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test, with which I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet.I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sitting on their butt and using drugs.Could you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check?

1541  Date: 2007-09-16 19:37:20
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Right is ok if it is logical. ;)

1540  Date: 2007-09-16 12:39:07
Poster ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John-
Thank you for your comments and mostly for accepting my opinions for what they are-my opinions. I truly figured that I would get "landblasted" on this board once I posted anything that indicated that I lean Right. I appreciate a civil conversation of listening to one another's thoughts.

1539  Date: 2007-09-16 05:23:32
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I cannot argue..and damn I never mind arguing ;)I the Clinton bunch might well have just figured to leave the mess to the next idiot that took the helm. I think that anyone walking into that office at the time would end up getting pounded in one way or the other, but of course would recieve the happy marks for at least going to war. I remember the day very well...I wanted to go to the shooting gallery also at the time..(anger)....Even Georgies worst enemy wanted to go the day the tragedy occurred...I suppose we are all emotional thinkers, and my guess is that his hand was forced. I am not sure if the same thing happened the Clintons would have stayed out of it...at that point, there is really no choice.

1538  Date: 2007-09-15 23:09:52
poster ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John-I understand and agree. I guess my point is that Clinton and his cronies didn't have the balls to stand up to the terrorists which, I believe, lead to 9-11 attacks on our soil.

1537  Date: 2007-09-15 21:40:08
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

again, a post..
Not sure if they forget, kind of think they never find out about what is thwarted, unless of course they hear something from Bush, his crownies or of course leaks. I would also venture to say that it is not all "us" that thwart the attacks, many times it is our allies. (and god knows what we miss even in classified documents)...Some of these folks have been thwarted by regular citizens that happened to be there at the right time and the right place. God forbid we give the citizens kudos...Do I think it is Bush that thwarted the attacks or plans of these idiots..Perhaps but only is a slight way..He of course decided to wage war on terriorists..(which anyone in his positon would have done)...It is the little guy that goes unmentioned in most of these reports that have done their work. These are the folks that deserve Kudos in my mind. They rarely get it. Many times it is the president himself that gets that particular kudos, or of course the head of the given agency that found the information..as far as the finder..they are often worker bees. Just an observation.

1536  Date: 2007-09-15 12:50:34
again, a post ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John-Although I have no first hand knowledge of the day to day operations of homeland security, I am very aware, as you said, that our country is threatened on a daily basis and things are snuffed. I know alot of people think our current Gov't is bad, but we have thwarted any further attacks on our country so I think that is something to people forget when they are critical.

1535  Date: 2007-09-15 05:32:54
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Posting again,
I agree with you concerning the Hillary thing..but again for some reason I am attacted to green. I also agree with the Clintons not dealing with business as it should have been. Then again, I beleive they were deep rooted into the system...so experience screwed up. Bush...arghh...he had experience comming out his...orifaces..I am kind of surprised he is a bad liar..Oh, I do not blame him for all of it, but I do blame the experienced folks he has surrounded himself with. My god you would think there would be someone close enough to say,,,"Mr. President, do the party a favor and shut the heck up, let us get the message out" The other thing that surprises me is his oratory skills. He had a shining moment of course, the same time Rudy did...I have a few Ex New York cops, I worked with. They tend to like him but do not understand him. Apparently he took a low level cop and made him the Chief of Police in New York..this was supposedly a "favor" based appointment which made them angry. The person that was in line for the job, supposedly was more qualified than the person Rudy put in charge..again I have no idea if this is true, it is based off what I was advised by the ex detectives. Again, they still like him, but warn that he is indeed a politican...But I suppose I even Obama will end up disappointing..I have a tendency to believe that anyone ends up disappointing..Perhaps I should run and disappoint the heck out of everyone.
The strange thing that I sometimes consider..even though I am not a fan of the current idiot in office is that he may be one of those presidents that historically turns out worth his salt. This is just me being honest with myself. There are so many things that go on, that we have no idea about, and will only find out after the fact. I deal with Homeland security issues all the time, and if people actually were advised of all the things that come up, and are stopped, they might have a bit of faith in the Homeland security folks. I can tell you for a fact at least once a week, somebody is caught in the states doing bad things. I can also state that in other countries these folks are also hunted down and often caught. The public only hears about a very small part of it. Being in my field, I actually understand this, but would not expect everyone to understand. With communication the way it is, we have become a country that believes we have the right to know everything that is going on..as it happens or within a day. Believe me, there are some things worth not knowing, unless of course you are interested in watching panic.
I suppose time will tell us about everything.
I also wonder if the "Oprah" affect is going to do anything for Obama, it has for others in the past. Wouldn't that be interesting.

1534  Date: 2007-09-15 02:14:38
posting again ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John:
I respect your opinions. I just believe Obama is too green. As far as the GOP not having a chance, I certainly hope that people will consider that Hillary is probably going to win if the Dems get the office and that will be bad news for our country. She and Bill had the chance before to handle Osama and look where that got us....Just an opinion.

1533  Date: 2007-09-15 02:02:23
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

A poster.
While typically I would agree with the experience thing, on this one I have hesitation. To me experience is doing things they way they have been done. (Those folks already in there have experience)..I tend to believe it is time to start fresh. Could be fool-hardy, but I would take the risk. As far a Rudy, he stood strong for terrorists threats and of course ran New York city. I am not not sure the running of New York city qualifies one to be anything other than a politican. The terrorist thing I understand, but of course he was dealing with a situation occuring there, and no where else. Besides that, his party does not stand a chance anyway...Just an opinion

1532  Date: 2007-09-14 19:10:50
a poster ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

well, if the choice down to obama or Hillary-Obama would be a slam dunk for me, BUT I am very concerned about his lack of experience. In these times, I feel experience is greatly required for the position.

Personally, I am not voting for either one. More than like, Rudy will get my vote. I think he can stand strong in the face of our terror threats.

1531  Date: 2007-09-14 03:55:22
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well,
Honestly, I personally like him. I have seen nothing shady or bad in his past. (Of course this might be a bad thing)..As far as choices, he would appear to be the best..(This is of course if he follows what he says...again possibly unlikely because it has somehow become the presidential candidates and other politicans have inherited the "I must Lie" world...I personally would rather have him instead of Hillary...and as far as the republican candidates go...None of them make me even think of voting for them.
I am kind of curious how the whole race thing will play out. Not to mention the gender thing. I do not write off Hillary because of her gender, however her family has already held office...I did not mind him, however I think change is a neccessity. Just an opinon.

1530  Date: 2007-09-14 02:26:37
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

So, I got an email from someone regarding Obama. I just wanted to get some people's opinions on him. I think he is great. I think he would be good for the country. He tells you exactly what needs to be done. People get ticked off because he says taxes will have to be raised to pay for social security or for education or for whatever the platform is. I find that refreshing. We don't have to read between the lines, or read his lips, to know what is going on. We know taxes will be raised, he's not lying to us, and I think I'm growing more and more fond of the idea that he's a good choice. I really haven't done much research on his past, but I've heard the whole Muslim/Catholic/Christian situation and have come to this conclusion: Thank God people today aren't judging me based on where my parents were born, what religion they were, etc. They judge me, sure. But I hope it's based on ME, not my parents. I hope Americans can see past his past. He's never given one hint that I've heard of or seen (with any reliability) that he has ever for one second been involved in or been sympathetic toward any terrorist activity or organization. What do you guys think about him?? Just curious!

1529  Date: 2007-09-13 22:31:44
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

gradschoolgrad
Do not feel bad about not proofing your post, a very seldom do..LOL. I put out a weekly 25 page intel report, I proof it a couple of times, then toss it to someone else to proof..generally I tend to be more concerned with content then format...This of course would be appreciated by some, but not everyone..LOL...
The other thing is to never trust spell check or grammer check. It is good for small things but once one gets into real desriptions, it will mark to many things as "Correct"...

1528  Date: 2007-09-13 21:35:10
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I believe you Bobbie, I think it is Guestbook.de...not sure..

1527  Date: 2007-09-13 19:32:45
RR Best ( newspro@newsprogress.com / no homepage) wrote:

I don't yet know whats up with this "message gets approved" thing. We certinally haven't been contacted about approving ANY message posted here.
However, if we see something that is nasty we will delete! So far, its only been spam thats got the ax...honest!!!

1526  Date: 2007-09-12 21:10:57
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Gradschoograd,
I would agree 100 percent concerning the difficulty in condencing thoughts. Unlike in highschool or even some Bachelor programs the need to condense can be difficult. Thinking back to Highschool and some of the Bachelor programs one could get away with "throwing stuff against the wall"...In a graduate program and of course some Bachelor programs each word needs to count. That I always considered the hard part.
One thing I used to do concerning slackers is to essentially do what was assigned to the slacker and keep it as a "just in case"...I would utilize the "just in case" only if needed. (Your own grade can go down based on the lack of it. My major was Business administration and I would of course attempt to motivate the slacker..sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not...regardless I and the rest of the group was covered. I saw this as something one attempts to do in the real world anyway.
I also agree, that teacher was defintly not someone who should have even attempted grad school. I got the feeling from watching this entire process that she was a typical spoiled kid, that of course was just after money. I would think that any grad school candidate should be more concerned about increasing their knowledge base more so than a salary. (The salary comes with the increase in knowledge most of the time anyway).
Another thing occurred while attending one of my fathers classes. He was sent by Emery Riddle College to teach a class of teachers working on earning their masters. I noticed that this class appeared to be just like a highschool class. I am not sure if this was simply because of their work enviornment or what. They had
1. A class clown
2. The avid gum chewer
3. The little click if girls passing notes back and fourth.
4. The serious one.
5. The slacker
6. The guy that always sits in the back and sleeps
7. The flirt.
8. The brown noser
My observations brought a great deal of laughter on the way home. I would name the part they played and my father would give the name..Funny, we were both right on all of them.

1525  Date: 2007-09-12 13:37:13
gradschoolgrad ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

It often seems when given a writing assignment in grad school, I was given a one page limit. It is often harder to condense your thoughts down to 500 words, one page, etc., than if you were allowed to write as much as you wanted. I would think most any student who balked at 500 words a week is not really grad school material. One way a teacher can increase his/her salary is to earn graduate hours. This may have been your teachers goal, not to increase her knowledge base.
Another tip - keep everything you write and the articles you used for reference. Many times, you can use this material in another class (I don't mean without revisions) or as a part of another research project. As John said, there is often a slacker in the group, but you will probably be able to pick out that person fairly early. If so, assign him/her something you (the group) think can be accomplished. It eliminates the resentment that can build up and gives everyone in the group some responsibility.

1524  Date: 2007-09-12 02:16:57
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

By the way, that was 590 words

1523  Date: 2007-09-12 02:16:03
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Wow. I had put something on here last Friday, however again it came up with (message must be approved before posted).I believe in it I asked Travis exactly how he was positive there would be no SS for him. I recollect my mother saying the same thing about it herself, and honesty I believe even my grandmother...
Cathy, I have not done the graduate school thing, however my father was a professor at several graduate schools and I audited a few of his classes. Based on what I observed, the answer to success is simple. Keep your nose to the grindstone. I would further state to not always trust those that you are doing projects with because there are those that actually produce, and those that simply let everyone do the work. Yes, this particular thing should be gone by grad school, but the fact of the matter is that it is not. Do your work, plus some. Do not get ticked at the slackers, if you are indeed placed in a group, you will be more than likely be asked to grade the other group members work. This is a time to be honest, (by this point do not fool yourself; your prof will probably know who the lazy ones are, so tell the truth. To me this is the time to consider yourself a businessperson. Would you give thumbs up to a jerk that did nothing while the rest of your workers toiled. I do not think so. If so you better get your butt back in school and re-learn.
As gradschoolgrad mentioned, if you are asked to comment on something (or not asked)..Make the comment one that is not simply a (that is great, or I agree).You have seen by playing this little posting game, you can see room for improvement on everyoneís thoughts. (Yes even mine).LOL.
The tip that every professor would give you is "Stay ahead of the game"...this might not always be possible, but if you attempt to stay ahead 100% of the time, you will at least be ahead 80% if time. If you only attempted to stay ahead of the game 50% of the time, you would of course only be ahead about 30% of the time (These numbers are made up but you get my drift)...
Interesting thing is that the non-traditional student definition will probably be completely changed in another decade...Seems like more and more mature (nice way of saying older) are going back to school.
In parting, I will tell the story of the 8th grade math teacher that was taking a one on one class with my father. With this program, essentially, you meet with the professor, and he tells you what he expects. My father and I met this girl at McDonalds for the little one on one. He was explaining what he needed her to accomplish, one of these things was a simple 500 wd essay on the topic they were dealing with during that particular week. Her response to the request was, "Five hundred words, thatís a lot, how am I supposed to get that done every week. I can't get it done every weekî. My father stood up and said, "Lets go John" and said to her, "You need to find another professor"...He deemed it as weak. I agree. How can someone in Grad school not be able to write 500 words a week? I do not get it, and never will. This is probably why our school systems are so weak.

Later Gator

1522  Date: 2007-09-10 15:25:03
gradschoolgrad ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Be sure to proof your papers more closely than I proofed my post! I do not proof very well on screen. I am much more likely to find errors if I am looking at a hard copy.

I also often read a paper aloud. Sometime errors or unclear passages are easier to locate.

1521  Date: 2007-09-10 01:30:15
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

gradschoolgrad, thanks!! sounds good! =P Couldn't resist. Yes, I am a non-traditional student. I still have 4 children in the home. I graduated Summa Cum Laude with my BA, and my goal is to do the same with my Masters. Every little bit of advice will go a long way. Thanks for taking time to share with me!!

1520  Date: 2007-09-09 23:16:36
David Moore ( zing4jc@yahoo.com / http://www.flickr.com/photos/david_and_phoebe_moore/) wrote:

Check it out all of you Sullivanites...or Sullivanians...or Sullivanators!!!!!

1519  Date: 2007-09-09 16:22:39
gradschoolgrad ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

How to make it Graduate School:

Never miss class-
Establish a good rapport with your professors - they are there to help you-
I assume you are a "non-traditional" student. That is a nice way of saying you are old! Professors tend to understand the special needs of a non-traditional and will work with you.
I went to grad school with multiple children still at home. I often didn't start my homework until 11:00 p.m. and would set my alarm to go off every hour in case I went to sleep before I was finished.
Prioritize your assignments. I told my professor once that "If it weren't for the last minute, I'd never get everything done." That is very true, but you cannot let EVERYTHING go until the last minute. I turned every assignment in on time, even though it was not always easy.
Find a partner within your program. There were several of us who worked together - proofed written work, studied for tests, and critiqued projects. If you do this, be honest and use positive critcism. During one group project one classmate's comment on everything was "Sounds good!" I felt she was too lazy to formulate a better answer.
My graduate program was four semesters. I found a calendar that covered the whole duration and also got them for my study group. It was a casual reminder that there was and end to the process.
It won't take forever!

FYI, If I remember correctly, my GPA was 3.91. I only made one "B" with "A's" in every other class.

You can do it - it's just one day at a time.

1518  Date: 2007-09-09 00:49:36
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Wow. Has anyone out there gone through grad school? I'm only 3 days in and already feeling defeated. I need some tips on how to get through this!!

1517  Date: 2007-09-08 02:56:49
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Travis,
How do you know, and where did you get the fact. If you will not have it, and it is known for sure, I believe with that kind of warning I would simply quit paying.
You know I actually remmember my mother saying she was not going to have it when she retired. Well the time has come and gone, and she still gets a check. Proof cannot be dictated by gut feeling, you have to have something stating.."Travis, although we are screwing you out of your Social Securtiy and we are Postive you are not going to get it, We wish you to continue to contribute to the Social Securtiy Administration for shits and grins.
Thanks, your idiotic goverment.

Perhaps something like the above ;)

1516  Date: 2007-09-07 00:48:46
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

i know i will have NO ss when i retire...I am 35 and it is a given fact i won't.Yes Bush is a idiot but so are the hundreds of idiots who do as he says..

1515  Date: 2007-09-06 21:56:29
The real John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Other John
Hello John, I know it was not me who typed it, I do not type in Caps. (unless I am yelling)..Although I might agree with your sentiments concering bush (Yes I did not capitalize that on purpose)...However I am not so sure of your 3/4 of us will not get the SS...Remember they have been stating the Social security would be gone at least for two decades, and I honesly do not know how old most people are that post in here.
As far as giving rights way, I think blaming one politician for the act of hundreds is a bit far fetched. I despise bush...however I also no that he is not the only one, he simply does not have that much control...Granted, he can influence the heck out of it, but what about all the idiots out there that simply follow what they have been told..They are just as guilty as he is. For that matter what about all the folks that complain about it, yet do not vote..They too are to blame...Food for thought

1514  Date: 2007-09-06 19:33:27
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

IS THAT GUY A COMPLETE IDIOT? JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE IMMIGRANTS, DOES NOT MEAN THEY DO NOT PAY TAXES! GOD, HOW RETARDED CAN ONE INDIVIDUAL BE? AND, OUR LIFETIME SOCIAL SECURITY SAVINGS? PLEASE, HAVEN'T YOU LIVED IN AMERICA LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT BY THE AGE OF RETIREMENT FOR 3/4 OF US, THERE WILL BE NONE LEFT BECAUSE OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESIDENT HAVE PISSED IT ALL AWAY? WE GAVE OUR RIGHTS AWAY A LONG TIME AGO, AS EVERYONE ELSE DID IN AMERICA, WHEN THEY VOTED FOR BUSH!

1513  Date: 2007-09-05 21:01:48
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

FMC, I agree, also glad not everyone cuts and pastes of emails to the Guestbook in the same way. Jeese at least remove the asterisks and format the stuff right...
Just for you American
German
Ach, sagt Dose, dass Sie sehen, durch das fr¸he Licht der Morgend”mmerung, Was so stolz wir am letzten Schimmer des Halbdunkels begr¸þt haben? Dessen breiten Streifen und helle Sterne, durch
den gef”hrlichen Kampf, O'er die W”lle denen wir haben zugeschaut, damit ritterlich Str–men war? Und der rote Glanz der Raketen, der Bomben, die Luft hereinst¸rzen, Hat Beweis durch die Nacht
Gegeben, der unsere Fahne noch dort war. O sagen, macht jenes mit Sternen ¸bers”te Banner noch Welle O'er das Land vom freien und dem Heim vom tapferen
Italian:
Oh, dice la lattina che lei vede, dall'alba prima luce, ciÚ che cosÌ fieramente abbiamo grandinato l'ultimo gleaming di al crepuscolo? Di chi strisce larghe e di chi stelle luminose,
attraverso la lotta pericolosa, O'er i bastioni che abbiamo guardati, dunque galantemente scorrere erano? E l'abbagliamento rosso dei razzi, le bombe scoppiando nell'aria, Ha Dato la prova
attraverso la notte che la nostra bandiera era tuttavia lÌ. O dice, fa quello stendardo di stella-spangled ancora O'er di onda la terra del libero e la casa del coraggioso
French
Oh, dire la boÓte que vous voyez, par la lumiËre de l'aube premiËre, ce que si fiËrement nous avons grÍlÈ au dernier gleaming du crÈpuscule ? Dont les raies larges et Ètoiles brillantes, par
le combat pÈrilleux, SUR les remparts que nous avons regardÈs, donc couler Ètaient gallamment ? Et l'Èclat rouge des fusÈes, les bombes Èclatant dans l'air, DonnÈ la preuve par la nuit que
notre drapeau Ètait encore lý. O dit, fait cette banniËre d'Ètoile-spangled pourtant la vague SUR la terre du libre et la maison du courageux
Portuguese
Oh, diz lata que vocÍ vÍ, pela luz cedo da alvorada, o que t“o orgulhosamente nÛs saudamos no ™ltimo brilhar do crep™sculo? Cujas listras amplas e estrelas brilhantes, pela perigosa luta,
O'er os baluartes que nÛs observamos, t“o nobremente corremos Èramos? E o resplendor vermelhos dos foguetes, as bombas estourando em ar, Deu prova pela noite que nossa bandeira estava imÛvel
aÌ. O O diz, faz essa bandeira de estrela-juncou mas onda O'er a terra do libertar e o lar do corajoso
Norwegian
Â, Sier boks du ser, ved daggryets tidlige lyset, Hva slik stoltt vi haglet p skumringens lesten glimte ? Hvis brede striper og klar stjerner, gjennom den farefulle kampen, O'er ramparts vi
voktet, s galant  str¯mming var ? Og rakettenes r¯de lysskjÊret, bombene brister i luft, Ga bevis gjennom natten som vÂrt flagg var enda der. O si, gj¯r den stjerne-spangled fanen ennÂ
b¯lge O'er landet av det frie og det hjemet av det modige
Finally Spanish:
øAh, dice le puede ve, por el luz temprana de alba, lo que tan orgullosamente granizamos en el anochecer ™ltimo brillar? øCuyas rayas anchas y estrellas brillantes, por la pelea peligrosa,
SOBRE las murallas que miramos, valerosamente correr fue asÌ que? Y los cohetes rojos deslumbran, las bombas que estallan en el aire, Dieron la prueba por la noche que nuestra bandera fue
todavÌa allÌ. O dice, hace esa bandera estrella-salpicado mas onda SOBRE la tierra del libre y el hogar del valiente

1512  Date: 2007-09-05 17:16:22
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

"American,"

I'm glad not everyone thinks like you.

1511  Date: 2007-09-03 15:37:22
donald l. enoch ( xnnyl76@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:

glad the progress is online

1510  Date: 2007-09-01 20:27:27
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I suppose if American really wanted to get this out, he would write the thing in Spanish...I would not forward this to anyone, therefore I am part of the problem. ( I suppose I always wanted to be a part of something)...the probem seems as good as anything else.

1509  Date: 2007-09-01 17:44:48
American ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

*
**I'm sorry, but after hearing they want to sing OUR *
*National Anthem in Spanish ... enough is **Too much!
*
*NEVER** did they sing it in Italian, Japanese, Polish, Irish-Celtic,
German, *
*Portuguese, Greek, French, or any other language because of immigra-*
*tion. It was written by Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for *
*word the way it was written. The news broadcasts gave a translation *
*that's **NOT even close. Sorry if this offends anyone ... *
* but this is my country.
*
*Let me make this perfectly clear!*
**
*THIS IS MY COUNTRY!** *
*
**And, because I make this statement *
*DOES NOT** mean I'm against immigration!!! *
*YOU ARE WELCOME HERE IN MY COUNTRY.** *

*Welcome to come through like everyone else has. *
*Get a sponsor! *
*Get a place to lay your head! *
*Get a job!*
*Live by **OUR rules! *
*Pay **YOUR taxes! *
*And *
*LEARN THE LANGUAGE LIKE ALL OTHER *
*IMMIGRANTS HAVE IN THE PAST!!!** *

*_AND PLEASE DON'T DEMAND THAT WE HAND OVER OUR LIFETIME SAVINGS OF
SOCIAL SECURITY FUNDS TO YOU TO MAKE UP FOR ''YOUR'' LOSSES._** *
*
**If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone, *
*then **YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! *
*
**When will AMERICAN'S STOP _"giving away"_ THEIR RIGHTS??? *

*We've gone so far the other way ... bent over backwards not to *
*offend anyone. But it seems no one cares about the **AMERICAN*
* **that's being offended! *

1508  Date: 2007-09-01 06:28:42
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I thought perhaps Racheal got it, guess I did not get that one...the others I know are correct..Good god, I am now going to remember that number as well 847.63

1507  Date: 2007-09-01 01:57:47
eh? ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Didn't get it John? I found this excerpt possibly explaining why the amount Maggie costs.

"$847.63. It has been claimed by many that Matt Groening once stated that the figure reflects the amount once determined to be the monthly cost of raising an infant in the United States. However, no reliable source confirms this."

1506  Date: 2007-09-01 01:11:28
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hugo..Yawnnnnn

1505  Date: 2007-08-31 23:16:00
hmmm ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

What's Bart's brother's name?

1504  Date: 2007-08-31 15:19:33
Rachael ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

is it a "no sale"? hmmm...

1503  Date: 2007-08-31 13:59:19
eh? ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

In the intro, how much does Maggie cost when they scan her at the supermarket?

1502  Date: 2007-08-31 01:08:48
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

36-24-36 Correct?,.,,,good god, I need a life

1501  Date: 2007-08-31 01:00:30
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Do you know Bart's locker combination, John?

1500  Date: 2007-08-30 19:51:17
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

This is sad...His ear hair....;)

1499  Date: 2007-08-30 18:13:30
Rachael ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John: The Simpson's creator - his initials M.G. are somewhere on Homer's head...can you find them? :)

1498  Date: 2007-08-30 04:46:28
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Wow more dead dogs...Maricopa County did a raid on BMX...a rapper knuckle head and found a ton of of an unknown substance (later tested and found not to be drugs)..(wonder how that happend)..A bunch of assault weapons, some starving dogs, and some dead dogs..Have to wonder if he is in the Dog fighting business itself. Wow, everyone is still out enjoying their summers and having a life..Me, I am still healing...I have been sneaking doing reports for work anyway...(I call it therapy)...Heck I have to do something..I do not have cable and do you know that since I have been off I found out a few things..Bart Simpson is drawn with 9 little humps on his head for hair..(try counting, I am not lying)..All the Charectors have 3 fingers and a Thumb. Homer has two hairs on his head. Good god, why do I know this...

1497  Date: 2007-08-28 06:31:25
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Wow,
It would appear all this little area needed was a push start. Sircher..I suppose my posts can cause things to happen, but I also shall state, that anyones post can do the same thing. (Exception, most spammers, unless we are an attack spam crusade).
While I agree, the companys could pay the parents a decent salary, the fact remains they do not, and I will toss out an assumption...We as americans in reality simply want the product. Sure we will say, "What a shame" but in the same breath, what do we do..BUY BUY BUY.CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP...We are paying for this tendency by having our kids choking to death from Chinese made toys and our dogs and cats acting like frogs and croaking with the nastyness in the dog food produced by the same country..(Picking on China now, heck they are big)..
Do we want to pay extra to have our computer techs actually have English as a primary language..probably not, if so we would be willing to pay higher prices for computers and of course the support that goes with them. Yes the corporations are greedy..but we are the buyers, and we should look at that as a sign of our own greed. If you do not like the product, how it is made, and by whom it is made..time to Boycott..but to get this nation to stand together it takes an act of war..and then the togetherness only lasts for a small amount of time. I suppose that is a greatness, and a weakness at the same time. Could thing change, I think it could, if we could ever get to the point where these companies actually decided that the kids needed schooling..Would it be good for them..Not in the long run, as you mentioned, people would indeed get smarter, and it would end up costing the companies..My thought on that, right is right, so what, let it cost. Everyone SHOULD have the right to an education..Scary part about that is just how bad could bad be if backed by intellect. We have been somewhat fortunate by dealing with the uneducated as far as bad guys go...Sure Hitler put together a great road, but he killed a lot of people..perhaps if he had more intellect, he would have killed even more. (Not that I believe he should have, but he would have been able to figure out how)...
Dog fighting...Well, I have seen dog fights in a travel or two, as I have seen cock fights..I have to say I have seen many things, but the dog thing seemed to be the most sickening..I do not have a heart for pit bulls, and in my little world it seems that MOST not all folks that talk about these animals seem to point out, how mean they are and can be..(in a bragging sort of way)..I still think it is wrong to set the things upon each other..and as far as the idiot getting charged, he has it comming..He should be put in a cage and be told to fight whatever challanges are there he must do the same thing..or be electricuted...(I do not really believe in that kind of punishment but if we were dealing with this with a twist of eye for an eye...it would be an interesting concept.
Should every kid get a computer..HELL YES, except I think it should happen before school. The fact is, in a short time..(Our lifetime) we shall see our off spring encounter so many things, they need the jump while they can. What could it hurt? My kids have had access for a long time, and yes I monitor it..do they get away with stuff. I have no doubt they can, and if so..well done, you beat dad at his own game. I discovered my son had two myspaces..one that I was aware of, and another one I was not aware of. Hell I did not even tell him...I chuckled, and monitor it..
Travis. Child labor..Simple question..Do you want your 14 year old daughter (if you had one) working in a factory for low hours and low pay...or Working as a hooker in the ilegal sex trade and making big money .No choice, pick one or the other..
Cathy..Not worthy of commenting? Wow..The people that pay them know it? Cathy, I am not sure all of the folks paying them know it is dispicable...again, you have to imagine, you are not in the United States, you are in Indonesia..Again, as I told Travis..you have only two choices..because in many cases, this is how it is in that particular country. The other thought...just where do the plant managers get the money to pay for the goods? They get it from profits, who caused the company to have profits..the buyers...who are the buyers? Ever wear a brand name shoe..Nike...? Go through your things, you will flip when you see made in Indonesa, Made in Thailand, Made in Chine, Made in the Phillipines..all of these places have no problem with child labor..until we complain, then they fix it, and we go away, and they do the same thing all over again...I hope your son fair well, my father was a colnel, brother a Sgt, both in the Army...They both say the Marines are the best trained and the most likely to survive..he picked a good branch..Hopefully his stay will be a short one..if not, hopefully safe.
Travis, I do not mind getting old, I just do not like the pain that seems to come with it...The fire is a few hundred miles away, although we do have inmates working on it..
I feel sorry for sorry for anyone that loses somebody, it is very devistating time for everyone..I suppose these are the only times when I wish I had a bit of an understanding or faith is some sort of religion, it would be comforting..It simply never happened for me. Any questions..comments or complaints..

1496  Date: 2007-08-28 00:55:11
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Tammy (Linville) Brick's husband Rob died last Monday night. He was in a motorcycle wreck last week and had been in a coma. It's so sad. My heart goes out to her and her kids.

1495  Date: 2007-08-28 00:50:07
me ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Tammy who? and what happened?

1494  Date: 2007-08-27 22:29:58
Just Curious ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Yeah, Travis...it sucks...until you think of the alternative!!! I have earned every wrinkle and lb.!!And...hope it continues awhile!!LOL

1493  Date: 2007-08-27 22:24:40
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Just wanted to publicly say to Tammy - I'm so sorry for your loss!! Please let me know if there's anything I can do for you and the kids. I know this is a hard time. I'm thinking about you guys. You're all in my prayers.

Child labor... not even worth commenting on, really. It's despicable and the people paying them know it. Makes them even more despicable. Curtis is still in the same spot, doing well. I've been busy this summer taking on projects around the house that I know I'll be too busy for once grad school starts next week. Haven't been online for any reason lately. Heard from my son (who is in Marine bootcamp). He called Thursday and is doing very well. He's 1/3 of the way done!

1492  Date: 2007-08-27 21:42:30
travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well john last i heard from him he was talking about the sunshine state..hmmm...child labor you say well i will keep my mouth shut since i am ignorant to this subject..I would assume as far as no activity as of late on here is due to family's trying to enjoy what is left of summer..

I have been trying to keep up with the utah miners and the situations facing there families.I can honestly see why they would be upset..I know i would be..Also John i see you had a rather large fire out there in AZ..Close to where you live??

Also john you say "GOOD GOD AM I AGING I SUPPOSE"
WELL YES YOU ARE AGING!!We all are unfortunately..I know it sucks...

1491  Date: 2007-08-27 15:53:26
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well JOHN, I hope you have finished your morning walk on water cause I am going to say something that will necessitate your shopping for a bigger size hat. Your posts, whether controversial or not, do tend to keep things going on this board. So we have missed (or I have anyway) you and are glad you are feeling well enought to rejoin us.
Now , my take on the child labor. Some of your points are very valid, but my bi**h is, that the companies paying those slave wages to those young people, make enormous profits when selling that product. Most, if not all of these big companies, could pay those children enough to really make a difference to their families and still make a good profit. These corporations have become so greedy and they are building their wealth on the backs of poor young children who have little or no choices. Now here is another idea. What if these companies hired the parents of these underage children and paid them a living wage and instead of working the young children went to school. Could possibly, in a generation or two these same children be intelligent enough to start making some changes in their country and raise the economy in their country?
Here is a couple more topics I would like to hear the opinions of you all. One is the dog fighting scandal that has been top of the news lately and the other is about the $100 computer for every child which was a piece on 60 minutes last night.
Well that should be enough to get this board going for a while, unless everone is too busy with golf and boating and all those summertime activities everyone has been busy doing the last couple of months.

1490  Date: 2007-08-27 13:12:45
Rachael ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I have one of these guestbooks as well, and at a certain point it started saving entries until it felt like it was ok to post them. Stupid. But like I've said before on here, I don't censor any of these posts, only the spam.

1489  Date: 2007-08-27 08:51:14
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Apparently people are just sleeping...or is it video games..I personally cannot stand them (games)but I suppose I am out dated...heck I do not mind local spammers, just the folks from no where offering nothing..(I suppose I am being judgemental, but hell I am only close to perfect)

Wake up folks or I am going to have to bring something up that will cause blood pressure to boiling points...hmmm...
Funny thing , I keep on getting emails stating, "the guestbook is dead" however those same folks mentioning this are not writing anything down..hmmm, is someone looking for me to work..has my arrogance been missed?
You know, I think child labor is a good thing...especially in third world countries. Why? Put youself in the shoes of a parent of a young Indonesian girl..lets make her..hmmm....14 ...no to be in the parents shoes, you must also consider yourself at the same salary status as an Indonesian in the approximate social status...(So indeed, you are poor..period). Now remember unfortunately folks do not think about birth control in many third world countries, (it cannot be afforded anyway)...so, you have three other kids, they are all under the age of 14 (Yes, this is your eldest daughter)...You know that your family must survive. Now you have essentailly two choices..At the ripe age of 14 she could of course work in a sweat shop making about three bucks a day .(do not laugh, right now you only are bringing home about a buck a day..(after all you are probably selling your fruit and vegetables along with raising your children)..or she could join the ever growing sex trade, and bring home anywhere from 20 to 40 dollars a day...I don't know about you, but personally I would rather have my daughter working in a sweat shop and making Nike tshirts...Who would rather have their daughter in the sex trade? What loaded question?

1488  Date: 2007-08-27 02:33:01
RR ( newspro@newsprogress.com / no homepage) wrote:

No, I'm not censoring any entries. Ok, I might have rachael take off some of the spam stuff, but not any real posts! I promise!

1487  Date: 2007-08-26 06:34:38
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hey Travis, Have not heard from Curtis in longer than that..last time I heard from him was his last posting. Sircher is the only other person who has posted in some time. Where did everyone go..Do not tell me attention spans have been narrowed down so that we are the only ones who still remember..good god I am aging I suppose ')

1486  Date: 2007-08-26 03:52:13
travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hey wow my post finally showed up on here...Is bobby censoring our post now? use to go on the site immediately..Anywho John have u heard from curtis in last 2 weeks?

1485  Date: 2007-08-25 02:18:39
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I think everyone must be busy or could not pay the internet bill.
As for my back, it is still there. I have to say, it is probably the most painful thing I have gone through. I am no longer using a wheel chair and now am using a cane..(good god I feel old). One of the canes has a little container in the handle for liquid substances..to bad I am not into that it would be fun. I am waiting to see the Dr to determine when they are going to cut me open. I honestly will be glad when it is all over, one forgets how much they like to work when they cannot.

1484  Date: 2007-08-24 15:03:18
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

LOL JC-I've been wondering myself although I didn't really think of that being the reason that nobody has been posting lately. I kind of figured everyone was just very busy with summer activities. Hopefully everyone will check in before long and tell us what they have been up to all summer. I remember someone had a son that was to graduate marine boot camp here in San Diego and I've been wondering if they got here for that and how they like my favorite city.
John-How has the back injury been coming along? That is such a painful injury, Let us know how you are doing.
Travis- You have had some of California and Arizona summer weather lately, except we don"t get so much humidity. Mainly because we also don't get hardly any rain from May to December. But we did have a 100 and 2 99 degree days last week. No heat index on those though since we have low humidity. But I got to tell you that humidity or not when it's 100 it"s da** hot.
I guess Curtis has been busy with his sports thing. I'm not sure sure what is all about(I'm sports illiterate),but I wish him luck.
So anyway I'm looking forward to everyone coming back to the board soon.

1483  Date: 2007-08-23 19:52:05
JC ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Gee what happened to this place? Did somebody fart and everyone run?

1482  Date: 2007-08-20 20:09:32
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

wow....so quiet for such a long time..Usually there is something new on here everyday..Although i have posted like 3 things and not one of then are showing up on here..I hope no one has floated away in the lsat couple of weeks.Thats just terrible out there in oklahoma and down in texas..I have spent time down in the San Antonio and like much of texas it is all rock with maybe 2 inches of grass on top of the rock..

It's been nice and hot and humid here over the lst few weeks.I know nothing compared to what you experience out in arizona john boy but it's still miserable..One of the MAJOR things in my top ten list of why i hate illinois. I just got a idea i think i am gonna make up a top ten list and send it to david letterman.10 things i hate about illinois..

1481  Date: 2007-08-16 00:01:14
A-Sharp DJ Service ( asharpdjservice@yahoo.com / http://www.sharpdjservice.com) wrote:

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1480  Date: 2007-08-10 04:00:53
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

gee Curtis, I am not on you list...LOL...good god, contact Burl...I am willing to bet he might jump on that..Me....heck you know me...ban all of it for good and put on educational television..LOL

John

1479  Date: 2007-08-10 01:38:17
Curtis ( illinoy@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:

Hey evryone! Just got off-line with a sports lawyer. SLA is who! I am trying to get a lawsuit going against the NCAA. They have been biased from day 1. Look at Fl. ST getting monies and tournaments from the ncaa that ILLINOIS is exempt from! ARE THEY BIASED? HELL YES!I just want the "ILLINI" to be treated fairly. Ban one institution, ban them all. Don't pick and choose what Native American mascots are derogatory. Equal justice is all I'm after here. The lawyers group is SLA! Sports Lawyers Assc. Help me guys and girls. I know you good Travis, BRIAN? JOJO? CATH? KELSE? DENISE? GREG? I need help here. FLORIDA STATE IS GETTING TREATMENT WE ARE NOT GETTING!!!!!! Time to take a stand! Help me folks, I need you. THANX TO ANY AND ALL OF YOU!! Curtis. How about you Nat?

1478  Date: 2007-08-07 11:48:46
Acting Jock ( lecrone@msn.com / no homepage) wrote:

How have you been? I'm in Naples. Last I heard you were in Dade City.
Email me so we can chat.

1477  Date: 2007-08-07 04:50:58
nubin ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Still love the girls but only one love of my live and she is still up there.

1476  Date: 2007-08-07 03:02:19
Cathy ( qtkmom@yahoo.com / http://www.myspace.com/cheweysdonuts) wrote:

My son is in boot camp (Marines) and some of you have asked for his address. If anyone else wants it, email me and I'll send it to you. He needs all the letters he can get for motivation, stamina, strength, etc. His platoon started with 125 and after 3 days was down to 89!! Anyway, let me know if you want to write him. Thanks.

1475  Date: 2007-08-05 08:22:00
Nubin ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well yes i do but i still love that girl in sullivan.

1474  Date: 2007-08-05 07:55:49
Just Curious ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Glad to know you are still kicking, Nubin...and still chasing the girls, I'm sure!!

1473  Date: 2007-08-05 06:13:38
Nubin ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

yes only one Nubin [Gary]

1472  Date: 2007-08-02 22:58:21
curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

hey travis, cowden was a neat place, except for the wife living there with me. Thanks for the nice words on our family deal. Much appreciated.

1471  Date: 2007-08-01 17:14:47
Acting Jock ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Yeah Nubin. Is your name Gary? If not who is the imposter, becuase I only know of one person named Nubin, and his real name was Gary. I knew him quite well.

1470  Date: 2007-08-01 15:43:37
Just Curious ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Nubin....is your name Gary?

1469  Date: 2007-07-29 11:00:59
nubin ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

hello girls

1468  Date: 2007-07-29 03:00:09
travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Been a while since i been on but just to add my 2 bits into the convo.I have been to several armpits in this state.One place well actually a few come to mind but one specific is cowden illinois..It's a real exciting place..HA! Now while we were on vacation we drove through a little blink of a eye town on the gulf down in florida.I swear the newest vehicle we seen was a 1970's chrysler cordova that was painted camoflauge.I kid you not.This place was right on the bend in florida on the gulf side.
If it wasn't for our kids my wife i and would be living down in florida over around ocala or st.petersburg.We love those areas..Nice area for us to vacation.However i also like it down in hill country in texas...But i could be happy i think anywhere but here..

1467  Date: 2007-07-26 17:33:34
Dave F. ( rebeccadownsdolinsky@comcast.net / no homepage) wrote:

I miss working at News Progress, especially the great people I met there. Greetings from Farmer Dave.

1466  Date: 2007-07-25 22:12:36
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hmm posted something already...must be being audited..;)

1465  Date: 2007-07-24 22:12:44
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sircher
Pain is no fun and I am hoping I grow used to it..Right now, I have been having problems sleeping..I have a tendency to start to think about work when it is time to sleep...got forget it pills today..We shall see.
Curtis and Cathy, glad to hear you made it through the ordeal, I am sorry you had to go through that, not easy stuff there...I hope everyone is holding up well.
Cathy and FMC I remember going through Sullivan a year or so at the Singer Reunion...strange when you can drive through the town and it seems like you know no one...but everyone looks like someone (offspring)..
Cathy me thinks there are several armpits in the country...of course there are folks that probably love the same pit...but to each his or her own..
Florence Arizona was my Armpit...Too many prisons, to many innmates, too many inmate families...to many Corrections officers...do not get me wrong, one feels kind of safe with a gun in about every house and law enforcement folks to back them up...but still just the typical attitudes drove me nuts.
I can relate with the kids and your location...We moved from florence in reality because I did not want them going to a school where the parents were raising hell because the school wanted to buy more books and computers and not new football uniforms...seemed kind of backwards...but to each his own.
Later folks, all I can stand for now..will be back later...

1464  Date: 2007-07-24 21:02:47
Revrod ( revrod_65@hotmail.com / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy, it was for this very reason that I left full-time ministry...I couldn't bear my kids growing up in a new town every 2-3 years. Kids need roots -- even in this day -- and they will be better off. We might not have a mansion, but we have a home and family.

But, even now, with Mom and Dad getting older, I miss the small-town life. If either one of them were left alone, I would move back in a heartbeat to care for them or look in on them. Wouldn't think twice...and the kids would understand. I know that sounds like a contradiction, but our values have always been to 'watch out for each other'...

We may not always get along with each other...and we may not always agree; but after faith in God, all we have of any value in this life is FAMILY.

1463  Date: 2007-07-24 18:19:32
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy, it's nice to hear of a parent putting her kids' happiness first. So many parents don't seem to care enough about what a huge effect things can have on their childrens' lives, such as moving a lot, etc. So it's admirable of you to wait it out for the sake of your kids.
I hope your turn comes soon! : )

1462  Date: 2007-07-24 04:51:35
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I'm still here because my kids finally have stability in their lives. Moving around with the military, etc, made for a lot of moves. They have been with the same friends for 7 years now and I can't move them again. 2 have graduated, and I have 4 more to go. After that, I will definitely not be here!! The schools are great and the kids love it here. My time will come and I will be able to go where I am happy. You're right. Life is too short to be unhappy. I know that first hand. But, right now, it's all about the kids' happiness. My turn will come. :)

1461  Date: 2007-07-23 18:07:12
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Oops...I obviously didn't proofread before I posted that.
I meant to say "If not, then why are you there?"
I really messed that one up.

1460  Date: 2007-07-23 16:55:00
Former Moulltrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I got back from Sullivan a week ago. I too ate at Monical's--mmm! And I did see a horse and buggy, at the park; something very interesting about the area that I took for granted when I was young.
It might be because I don't remember things exactly as they were, but it seemed like there aren't nearly as many trees around as there used to be. Driving through Sullivan, it seemed more open and barren than I recall.

Why is Modesto the armpit? It's not a good place to live? If not, they are you there? I'm always curious why people stay someplace they don't like. Often it's for a job, but usually one can find something just as good in a place they enjoy living. ? Life's too short to be stuck in a place we're not happy with. : )

1459  Date: 2007-07-23 15:59:45
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I'm back in the armpit of America (Modesto). Drove through Sullivan while I was home. People were walking around and I didn't know one of them. Things are basically the same, just a few more houses on the outskirts. The week was exhausting, but I did get my Monicals pizza, so that was awesome!! Didn't even see a horse and buggy when I drove through. I wanted to stop and get an Amish sugar cookie, but forgot. Someone send me one!! :)

1458  Date: 2007-07-23 05:38:02
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis and Cathy, my thoughts are with you on the loss of your brother-in-law. Please accept my condolences to both of you and your family. Death of a family member is such a hard thing to have to go through. You must deal not only with your own feelings but it is also so hard to see other loved ones going through the hurt. We miss hearing from both of you, so please let us know that you are home safe and know that we have been thinking of you.

1457  Date: 2007-07-22 00:03:04
curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Thank you to the newsprogress. Dennis J. Blue in the obituaries is my brother-in-law. Thank you.

1456  Date: 2007-07-22 00:00:03
curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Thanx everyone. I and Cathy lost our brother-in-law suddenly. A major stroke on the weekend and gone Thursday. Everyone be well and will continue to look in periodically. Again, thank you to all of you. Later, Curtis

1455  Date: 2007-07-21 22:42:19
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hello John! I haven't been hiding. Took a little trip to the hospital myself. Got a few pieces of hardware put in my heart. Now I can't smoke, eat anything good and as you know my husband passed away a few years ago and I never was a drinker. So now all I got left is to go deaf and blind to make my life completely not worth living. LOL Just kidding. Dr didn't think that was funny either.
So how are you doing with your back problem? I know from my son's experience that it is terrifically painful. He had 4 fractured verabrea and they don't even know how it happened. Unfortunately when they did the surgery they knicked the sheath of his spine so now he has a bad sunburn-like pain that comes around from the back all around his stomach area. But even that is so much better than the pain before the surgery. And the only pain medication that would help him was morphine or oxycontin. None of the lesser pain pills even touched the pain. So I have some Idea of what you have been going through. I hope you have a good Dr. that believes in pain management. Take care kid and let us know how you are doing.

1454  Date: 2007-07-21 07:35:24
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hmm it would seem everyone is hiding...

1453  Date: 2007-07-16 00:20:13
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Back from Hospital again...Curtis and Cathy, I am sorry to hear of your loss, but right now cannot figure out who...Curtis, I have a feeling more people know you toss in stuff than you know..LOL..
Trista, is a neat name, but I am betting your real name is even neater..;)...Interesting in your response you noted things that you have seen and did not like (People taking advantage of the system..I have a tendency to believe that enough years of seeing that stuff turns one even more bitter than one would imagine. My father is a retired Colnel...My step mother a Lt. Colnel...want to talk about true haters....They have worked with enough folk they consider idiots to last them life times...and for those that do not really know Burl...His pet peeve is dealing with idiots...probably what bent him in the direction he is bent in...(These were mostly leadership folks)...You know the type..make decisions not based on the saftey of the soldiers but based off popularity contests...
Just Curious, you are right on the money...

1452  Date: 2007-07-13 23:07:45
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curt i been gone a while but i am scratching my head here.Were you and cathy related to toby?Regardless of who it is i am sorry..

John glad to see your back and doing well.However i must call you kn something..The comment you made in post 1434 i believe about does not drink in false..Ha Ha Ha...Jibby's last year at the sullivan show choir alum reunion..Does it ring a bell...I have had the pleasure of being perscribed the same medications as you with the same results...NOTHING!!However when i told my nurse that i was amazed at what she told me to do...She said take your meds with a adult beverage..I about lost it by laughing so hard..I would bet if that nurses aupervisor would have caught wind of that comment she would be unemployed as we speak..But anyhow glad your better and your puter is better too.

1451  Date: 2007-07-13 19:49:12
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Thanks, Sircher. And thanks to those who emailed their condolences. Means a lot!!

1450  Date: 2007-07-13 16:08:25
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis and Cathy-So sorry for your loss!

1449  Date: 2007-07-13 15:56:08
Cathy ( qtkmom@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:

Wow. Haven't been on for a while. A lot has been going on here! Awesome. Anyway, just wanted to say that I'm going to be in Sullivan this weekend. My email is on here if you wanna get in touch with me. Won't be a fun trip, as I am coming home for a family funeral, but I'd like to see a few people while I'm there. Tell Penny to contact me!

1448  Date: 2007-07-13 15:02:38
burl ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

trista speaking your mind and letting people know the truth does not undermine support for the troops I will always support you and those still wearing a uniform but I can not allow lies and half truths to be considered gospel because some backwoods redneck was elected president. Curt I am sorry for your loss, but each one of us has our own purpose we may lose sight from time to time but perspective will come back to you hang in life is not easy or it would not be a 4 letter word

1447  Date: 2007-07-13 12:56:52
Acting Jock ( lecrone@msn.com / no homepage) wrote:

Curt,
I am trying to find out who you lost? My sympathies go out to and your family, because I feel they are sort of my family too.
Please let me know.

1446  Date: 2007-07-13 07:18:55
Just Curious ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Trista: Again thank you for your service, but pls do not ever feel there is not support for the troops because there is no support for the President and his croonies. The two are separate entities. You are following orders, what they say is what you have to do and it is appreciated. Never think that negative thoughts towards the government has anything to do with respect for the troops. When you get there send an address...might just send a pkg or two. Stay safe!!

1445  Date: 2007-07-13 02:42:19
Trista ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Which isn't my real name, by the way. I just like it! And my mother wouldn't like me calling someone an ass, so I regret that I was too chicken to give you my real name. However, to answer a question: I am a soldier. I am currently stationed at Fort Lewis, Washington. I did my 15 months, and yes, whether you would like to think I am trying to make it sound worse than it is or not, I am scheduled to go back in January. We are told it will be for at least 18 months next time. We are training hard, as we all know that Ft. Lewis has sent more troops than any other base, and we have had more deaths than any other base. They aren't even doing individual services anymore, as there are too many casualties. We now attend funerals of multiple soldiers who gave all for their country. We are all scared, but we fight so that our families and friends don't have to. Out of 8 women scheduled to go last time, I was the only one that didn't get pregnant or claim some sort of depressive disorder, which made me the lone female to leave. (At the time, I was stationed in Germany.) I hope that the women here will understand that we signed the dotted line right along with the men, so that's where we should be. Our country needs us. Burl, I apologize. I just get angry when I hear fellow soldiers criticize our government. The only thing that can come of that is less support for us. Yes, us. You, me, and everyone else over there in the god-forsaken desert. Karbala, Baqouba...it's all hell.

1444  Date: 2007-07-13 01:53:11
curtis ( illinoy13@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:

MY CONFESSION!! Folks at the paper and all who read this and respond. I AM so ignosificent(sp) that what I write doesn't matter.The absolute truth is I write crap so you feed on it. I lost a family member today and made me realize how incignificant my words were. I don't believe 3 quaters of what I write. I just write for entertainment purposes only. Nothing more, nothing less. I am sorry if I hurt anyone in the process, but it was all in entertainment. I now know I was wrong and profusely apologize to you all. I am nothing! God bless you all and thanks for the fun times. However, I respect the thoughts of all of you enough to quit being a jackass. Thank you for writing and keep it up and GOD bless all of you. THANK YOU! With my deepest regrets, Curtis Anthony

1443  Date: 2007-07-11 23:02:25
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Interesting thought about Bin Laden...one might have to wonder if he has already been caught or dead...Yeah, I know its a bit of a stretch, but I wonder how the people would feel if they found that he had already been dead for a year or so, however in order to keep the public happy, and folks at war, he is reported alive...Sound to crazy?
Sircher you make a very good point about the bill, frankly have the time things do get passed there is a major lack of money, or at the last minute the money that was in the bill is rerouted...so I suppose time will tell...Catching folks would be a bit difficult, however I will note that the Mexican Nationals are no longer allowed to hang out at the home depot to find pick up jobs...(Now they wait a few blocks away)..LOL...

1442  Date: 2007-07-11 22:23:20
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

O.K., so it's been established that Burl is not an ass; he is apparently some sort of horribly mutated sexy beast that is irresistible to women.

1441  Date: 2007-07-11 18:37:47
Burl ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Oh by the way FMC actually I have sprouted horns and a tail as well as another pair of arms and legs. But hey the ladies love it!!!!!!!!!

1440  Date: 2007-07-11 18:35:30
burl ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Trista, Trista, Trista why would you call me an ass? What is it that I have said or done to upset you so? You are entilted to your opinion and I will admit that there are many people around the world who would agree with your statement, I however just wonder what brought forth the hatred and animosity. I really do not care about others opinions of me especialy when they do not give reason for thier views. I am going to assume you are National Guard if you are going for 18 months unless you just want to make it seem worse than it is. Next question what is your MOS since I am going assume you to be female that narrows it down significantly. Are you a FOBBIT? Personally I have been there for 2 tours in case you had not heard and they were combat tours are you support? Well enough POG bashing for one day.
Curtis the reason the Iraqis have not been able to stand up a decent military is because it pays more to plant IED's and try to kill Americans. I know for a fact that they do not even get paid regularly. On top of that they are a backwards culture I have watched "trained" Iraqi's shoot themselves in the foot simply because they do not have any understanding of discipline. There are some very good Iraqi units last time we worked with Hilla SWAT and these guys were good, possibly a little too violent. Reality is that this is the way to handle the Iraqi's my first time we were in the Diayala province near Ba'Quba now a hot spot and the people did not fight us much because we went in and stepped on their throats to make them realize that we will kill them if provoked. Hell if I was in charge in Iraq I would pick 2 days a month that were open season and trust me the insurgency would dwindle quickly. The crap that they put out to soldiers going over now about how we are trying to win the "hearts and minds" of the Iraqi's is crap it leads people to believe that they are not going to war but the fact of the matter is that the war is still going strong 4 years after President Bushleaguer said that it was done. Just some food for thought from your favorite former government mule.

1439  Date: 2007-07-11 08:43:30
Just Curious ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Trista, thanks for your service...what branch are you in...where were you in Iraq? Glad you are protecting our freedom.

1438  Date: 2007-07-11 03:44:23
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

JOHN--Hurrah for your Gov. but I got one question. Is there money in that bill to back up the law? There has to be enough people to check the employers that may be hiring illegals. The government, both federal and state have a habit of passing laws,but not allocating money to enforce them.

1437  Date: 2007-07-11 02:18:41
Curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I'm thinking a loud to myself and wondering why when I went to boot camp, it only lasted 8 weeks? The iraqi's boot camp is five years and running, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? I know we may be a little more advanced, but where is there military. Why can we be trained in 8 weeks and they can't be trained in five years? Hold on, I DO have the answer. W won't allow it! See, if things go well over there without getting Osama, then things aren't going well over there. Until the idiot(W) captures,kills him, it aint going so well over there. However, mind you this is W we are speaking of or I am speaking of, If he wants more money there or he needs more money for some kind of "committee", things aren't going so well. I guess you heard they were putting two new faces on Mt. Rushmore? Yea, W's!I applaud executive privilage. Not only lie to your country but your congress too. Way to go George. Or is it? Which way did they go George? What an absolute IDIOT!!!!!

1436  Date: 2007-07-11 00:51:08
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Gov. of Arizona signed 2779...if employers are caught hiring illegals they will be fined $2500 first time and permanently lose their business license the second time. Is is at least a real action.

1435  Date: 2007-07-11 00:17:44
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hey Travis, do me a favor and Buy Burl Jividen a beer...tell him its from the Colclasures..(I think he likes the harder stuff, but he can get a discount;)

1434  Date: 2007-07-11 00:10:29
John Ouch ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hello
I am not dead, however due to the pain, I cannot help but fantasize a little bit. ;)...
As for pain killers...I have actually not ran into anything that is good enough except for dilad...unfortunately though, it is not something they typically let you out of the hospital with...and me thinks that is is just a tad bit on the addictive side. Morphine...breaks me out in hives...(just learned that)..Vicodine...simply does not have a kick to it...and percesette (sp) seems to at least dull the pain...not that the pain is exciting...:)
I have been in the legal world to long and no longer have the look of one that can snap their fingers and get 420.....Who would have guessed, I look too much like a damn cop...Oh well, maybe it will appear one day...until then perhaps I should just drink...(Not really I do not like booze)
FMC...Burl indeed still has two legs...Trista, not sure if you have called Burl an ass based on his comments or his past....if it is his comments, and it is because you are in the military...keep fighting for his right to spout his opinon, it is good of you...most importantly watch your 6....remember, it is a different time..just because people do not support the idiot running the country, does not mean they do not support the troops following orders...and of course if you are calling him an "ass" because of previous dealings...well, I suppose everyone has an opionion, and I have no doubt that he has been called worse...perhaps even by me at times....But this of course was also probably directed at me from him more than once...
Sullivan Carnivals used to be kind of neat...interesting thing someone mentioned Corndogs...The Sullivan Carvival taught me I was too much of a sissy to ride the Rocko planes after eating one of the infamous corndogs....I do not eat those things anymore...
Heres a story I might have told...
I worked the Carnival one hot summer...I was paid 15% of the take of one of those silly games, where I stood for hours shouting "Three for a quarter, three for a quarter win a dog..three rings for a quarter...The object was of course to toss one of the rings over blocks of wood, thus winning a dog that seemed like it was about 4 ft tall...Well, I worked, and worked, getting my little money...a day before the carnival came to an end...I did a naughty thing...A lady (girl) named ...Lauri Kersin..(This may be spelled wrong, I think she graduated in 80) came to the both...I recollect her being a very pretty young lady..(I think I was very young as well)...Anyway...she came up to give it a try...and...well, even though the rings would hardly fit over the blocks...Unless you did it with you fingers just right..She won a big pink dog...(Yes, I let her win)...I yelled, "We have a winner!"...The carnie that owned the little stand (I think he had a few games there) was a rather fat guy with a "wifebeater" t-shirt on....ran over to the game and with a very mean nature, told me to get the hell away from his game...Laurie got the dog, I got the boot...After checking out how much I actually made a day, it was probably about two dollars for more than an 8 hour day...Yes, my reputation was ruined with the Carnie folk...but to Laurie, I probably went down a hero..;).....I believe Curtis might rememeber that, I remember getting teased for letting her win..;)

The wounded one.....

1433  Date: 2007-07-10 18:50:34
Trista ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Actually, I did 15 months in Iraq. I am due to go back for 18 more months in January. Thanks for asking.

1432  Date: 2007-07-10 15:11:46
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Though it's been years since I've seen Burl, I'm pretty sure he's still a human (unless he's turned into a 4-legged creature since...which I doubt).

1431  Date: 2007-07-10 08:12:16
Just Curious ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well, Trista...those are pretty harsh words for a lady, which I am assuming you are female...How many years were you in Iraq?

1430  Date: 2007-07-09 05:31:09
Trista ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Burl, you're an ass.

1429  Date: 2007-07-08 12:34:28
Burl ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I'm BAAAACK just when you thought it was safe to go to the News-Progress site here I am again. First off FMC I lived in TX 4 yrs wish I had known your brother was there would have liked to have seen him and said hello. Tell him I said Hi and to give up the High School fantasies!! Seriously wiffle ball?? Actually I am just jealous because I am getting fat and lazy. Acting Jock what are you serious have you even read anything I have said. I know why we went over there and it basically had nothing to do with Saddam except maybe to finish up his daddy's business!!! Now was the reason justifiable yes but now is it still cost-effective not a chance in hell, and after you create chaos you cannot just back away that would have created a vaccuum that would have sucked every terrorist and militant islamic straight into it and then they would have had the opportunity to organize themselves which is something that cannot be allowed but hey thanks for playing. Well John is on the mend slowly but surely, christ he'd kill me if he found out I called him Shirley. Hope all in Sullivan and surrounding area enjoyed the 4th 116 degrees here in Phoenix and honestly that just sucks, dry heat my a$$. Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night!!!!!!!!

1428  Date: 2007-07-04 22:31:42
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis i tried the 636 #...no answer....I gave chucky's dad your #...

Well the 4th of july parade was very good.HOT but when isn't the fourth hot here.I would say the parade lasted a lil over 1 hour and it was very,very good.I applaud the local american legion for doing a great job.

They do have the rocko-planes here this year but the operators are nothing like the way joe ran them...He would lock you in and spin ya around before the ride started and maybe it was just me but boy did that ride go fast...I am a little dissappointed though just did not seem like there was a lot of people at the carny this year...I dunno maybe it has to do with my age and comparing it to how it was when i was in school 20 years ago..But in all the fourth isn't about the carnival it's about celebrating our freedoms and the men and women who give us freedom..

1427  Date: 2007-07-04 04:25:34
Joy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hi..thought you all might like to know...John is slowly improving. They have to send him a new modem for his internet service, so until that arrives guess you will be spared his opinions!! This eliminates Burl's posting, too.
Hope you all have a great 4th of July..think we all have great memories of this time of year in Sullivan.
Joy...Mother of John/Burl

1426  Date: 2007-07-03 19:56:40
a poster ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I loved the rock-o-planes too!

1425  Date: 2007-07-03 17:13:24
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I always loved rides, but the Rock-o-Planes really scared me. Someone talked me into riding them, and a person in another "egg" threw up, and a little bit of it got on me! That's my awful memory of the carnival!
I also remember a few of the toys I won there; I think they were covered in cat fur (little plastic animals with glued-on fur coats). Oh, and those horrible cheesy mirrors you could win by playing the ballon-dart game! My brother won a Def Leppard one!
My great-grandma always gave each of us great-grandkids $10 to spend at the carnival. She passed away long ago, but I always remember that when I think of the carnival.
Lemon shake-ups...mmm! Last year I had one of those and an elephant ear at a festival where I live now. But the elephant ear wasn't as good as they were at the carnival!

1424  Date: 2007-07-03 15:24:31
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I didn't know the Legion moved positions. That was half the fun, walking all the way around. When I think of the carnival, I instantly think of the Rock-O-Planes. Carnival Joe always ran them. Those are the best. Second memory would have to be the elephant ears. Mmmmm. Haven't had one in years. We were always happy when we "ran into" friends. Now, I find that amusing. I mean, we were all crammed into one parking lot. Of course we're going to run into people we know!! =P

1423  Date: 2007-07-03 15:06:01
a poster ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sounds like a lot of us miss the Carnival and 4th Celebration.

Why not reach into our memories and list a few things we miss. Thanks Acting Jock for reminding us about the sno cones and corndogs.

The carnival is different than it was years ago. Now that the new Legion Hall is positioned like it is, the carnival is only on the side nearest the Civic Center. Remember when the Legion was more in the middle and the carnival went around on all sides of it?

I loved the Elephant Ears and lemon shake-ups and mostly just walking around, and around, and around the carnival checking out who was there.

Anyone else??

1422  Date: 2007-07-03 13:07:17
Acting Jock ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

As far as the fourth celebration. Gee, I miss it. I used to spend so much of my bean weeding money on that silly carnival.
I loved the sno cones and the corn dogs. It was expensive back then, I can't even imagine how expensive it is now.
Cath, I hope you are doing okay.

1421  Date: 2007-07-03 13:03:14
Acting Jock ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Burl,
I would like to thank you again for your service. But will have to disagree with you on the whole W. thing. Believe me, I don't agree with W. on alot of things. But the whole invasion of Iraq, and getting sadam out of power I agree with. I think once we got him out of there we should have pulled back. The current Iraqi's efforts to form their country has been a failure. And alot of policies since then have been failures. But with what Sadam had done prior to is departure made it easy for me to support that action. He was Hitler like, and therefore needed to be taken down.
I don't agree with all of the excuses W. administration used to get the funding and go over there.
You probably know alot more of the details than I or most of the inner day systematic events that went on over there.
I do believe that we would be in a much more high level of security if Gore would have won the White House.
I hope John is okay. If he does get the medicinal marijuana, tell him to start writing, his blogs might be even more interesting than they previously were.

1420  Date: 2007-06-29 19:51:03
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Are there special events in Sullivan?! J/K : )
My brother and his kids (who live in TX) are going up to visit the rest of the family, so I am going too so I can see everyone at once. I think it will have been about 4 years since I was last there.
Thanks for the tip about the dressing! I'll have to get some!

1419  Date: 2007-06-29 18:29:27
a poster ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

FMC:

not only does Monical's still have their house french dressing, but now they sell it in quart bottles to take home. You may need to pick some up!
Coming in town for a special event or just to visit?

1418  Date: 2007-06-29 16:32:24
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

It's nice to see some support for medical mj here. I personally have to keep a little on hand due to some bad stomach problems as well as osteoarthritis. Nothing else I've tried seems to help. So, illegal as it may be, I'll take that risk in order to alleviate my pain.
Oh, and Burl you are right about Robitussin; I remember drinking a bottle back in college...that was a fun night.
There are teacher-student relationships in the news constantly here in the Denver/Boulder area. Lately, most of them have been female teachers with male students. The last one only got probation--no jail time. I think it would be a different outcome if the roles were reversed.
Burl, yes--you are correct about my identity. My brother is in Austin, married with 2 kids. He plays on some whiffle (sp?) ball league...never lost his love of baseball I guess.
After many years away, I will be visiting the area in a couple of weeks. The one thing I'm looking forawrd to is Monical's. I hope they still have that good orange/red dressing for their salads. Bring on the green olive pizza!

1417  Date: 2007-06-29 05:05:35
Burl ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I am back to rouse the rabble and to see who I can p!ss off next. Fact of the matter is it is a genetic trait that can or I guess I should say will not be supressed. Yes John is in a lot of pain but let's face it he just like the attention. lol. As far a medicinal Mary Jane truth be told there should be no reason for a persciption hell get a bottle of robitussin and do the right things and you will be seeing purple elephants and green rhinos without a doctors visit and straight from the shelf of your local drug store all it takes is knowledge of what to do and a bit of time, however I do feel that it should be legalized and controlled hell you knock out half the defecit if it were to happen of course cigarette companies would have to come up with new colors for the menthol packs because green in any other package just would not be the same. Has anyone noticed what Fuhrer Bush has done with rejecting the subpoenas sent to him by congress, yes many other presidents have done this but none to the extent he has since oh maybe Nixon. Nixon at least got a cool nickname (Tricky Dick) out of. Any ideas for a good nickname for W. I am fresh out of ideas because I think I have used them all up before. Except maybe Curious George, or possibly Hey my daddy's rich so I can do what I want, maybe even Hey sorry suckers I did not have to go to Vietnam, but I still think my favorite is Stupid, backwoods, inbred, illiterate, delusional, egomaniacal, corrupt, self-serving, mommy should have flushed him out, waste of flesh!!! And what is the deal with the Canadian Crippler??? I do not understand what makes a person go kill thier wife and child and then hang themselves. I am saddened that a young life was taken but glad that a obviuosly defective model like Benoit is gone. Hey we got rid of another moron. I have gone through some times where I was "crazy" (hell I have the paperwork to back that it if you want to see it) but there is no way on earth that I would ever even consider taking the life of my child or her mother as mad as I might get I could never do that but here was a guy making some decent money to roll around on a mat with another sweaty guy wearing tights, I think it was his latent homosexuality that did him in. Former Moultrie Countian for verification purposes your brother is B? Played baseball? And as for the sorry pedophile teachers that some how manage to worm there way into the school system does anyone remember a few years ago one was sent to jail for having sex with a 15 yr old student? What was his sentence 90 days in jail I am sorry but did anyone else not find that unbelievably leinient I mean for the love of god catration at the minimum for such acts but hey that is just my opinion well I hope you all in the Sullivan area have a wonderful 4th of July and should any of you see Burl Jividen out and about please tell him I said hello. thank you and good day.

1416  Date: 2007-06-29 02:20:11
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

well the carnival is all set up and ready for business to start on the 29th.Hopefully the weather cooperates at least for a brief time so i can go get my traditional corn dog,elephant ear and lemon shakeup for $25..lol..We have been getting alot of the after effects of the texas rains this week..Thankfully no where near the amounts they recieved..

John medical mary..or her aunt morphine whatever it takes to kill the pain.I have never experienced the injurys you have but i for damn sure would be on the horn demanding relief in any humane possible way.

As far whats going on in town on the 7th..The same as any other weekend here..NOTHING!!Streets start clearing out by the time the street lights come on unless you like to frequent the local watering holes.If that is the case from what i have heard they are dead as well..I am very serious this town has no life once the lights come on...Nothing like it use to be...Such a shame..Oh well what do i care i'm married with children..

1415  Date: 2007-06-29 00:41:54
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John-so sorry for your back problem. Here's an idea! sounds like the same thing my son had(very painful)and he just had the surgery. Well if you go visit him in Sitka, Alaska he can give you all the info , and his surgeons' name ect. AND marijuana is legal in Alaska. Sounds like a plan huh?

1414  Date: 2007-06-28 19:11:25
JOhn ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I am not dead...but I am too screwed up to type..much...Vertebrae fresh breaks..did not see that comming....Now I need some medical Marijuana yes I said it!!! To bad it is not legal or believe me with the pain I have, I would be singing songs...can't stay up, have to lay down...this brace sucks..keep rocking

1413  Date: 2007-06-28 05:42:27
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

June 29-July 4 according to www.sullivanil.us It doesn't have a year on the website, so I am only assuming that it is current!!

1412  Date: 2007-06-27 23:07:27
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Can anyone tell me when the carnival will be in Sullivan?

1411  Date: 2007-06-27 22:44:27
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Now is this blog getting dangerous or what? John, Cathy and me all in the hospital at the same time!! Glad to hear you are doing good Cathy. Now we need to hear from John or someone close to him. Hint, hint Burl.

1410  Date: 2007-06-27 22:08:19
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I'm fine. thanks for asking

1409  Date: 2007-06-27 14:21:11
a poster ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

what is going on in town around July 7th?-seems to be a popular time to come to Sullivan.

Hope John is doing well-any update Burl?
Cathy-why were you in the hospital? Hope you are o.k. likewise.

1408  Date: 2007-06-27 00:45:31
curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Travis! If you see Chucky's dad, have him get a hold of me. Brian or J R can give you my number to give to him. Would like to chat with him. Thanx man. Later from the tator.

1407  Date: 2007-06-26 16:09:10
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Wow. A lot of heated stuff on here!! I go into the hospital for 5 days or so and come back to 2 full pages! Cool.
Offended... what can I say? You have your opinion, I have mine. I didn't really see "all the language" you referred to, but then again, I started the rantings a little bit, so I can't say much!!
Sorry if I got you worked up, Burl! I remember you as the 5 year old little brother, so it's strange to listen to you all grown up and defending your position. I'm really proud of you, for what that's worth to you now.
John, thanks for your belief in me. Yes, I can defend myself if I feel the need. However, I have come to the conclusion that I have my opinions and beliefs,and the only person I need to defend them to is me. I have spent years arguing with my brother over this very issue. I'm pretty much done. I don't feel the need to defend myself about it anymore. We can all access the same information/facts/whatever. What we choose to get out of that is up to us. I'm not here to try to convince people to see it my way. We all have our own convictions. I can respect yours, even if you can't respect mine!! =P LOL
I watched the Arcola hostage situation from my hospital bed in California. I didn't see the resolution, though. What happened? Was anyone hurt other than the cop? Is the cop OK? The bank just down the street gets robbed frequently. Scary stuff. Don't think I'd like to be a teller.
And as far as teachers go, I don't remember the ones mentioned on here, as I am a little older. But I had one teacher in high school who gave me an A for whatever we did that day if I wore "A" clothes (miniskirts, cheerleading skirt, shorts, etc), and a C for it if I wore "regular" clothes. Pervert, let me tell ya! Another teacher looked down my top when I bent over on the bus, smiled (smirked,really) at me and said "nice dress" - It wasn't even low cut or revealing. Gave me the creeps! Where do they get these people!!

1406  Date: 2007-06-25 22:22:45
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

well i hope John springer speckelmyer dinger winger is ok.Curtis last night i got stopped by a mother of a guy who we use to socialize with once in a while.I guess he is back in town till july 7 or 8th.I'll give ya a hint we use to call his daughter chucky..ring a bell??
I seen over the weekend a moving truck out at brians i guess you knew he moved to cerro gordo?

Um i haven't been on in a while but did Cathy make it back from her cruise?Also for those who visit this site don't forget ot buy your BESSIE BINGO tickets for the 4th of July.Only $10 for a chance at $500.00

1405  Date: 2007-06-25 14:17:40
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Burl,
I think you have me figured out. I don't think there is anyone else from my class with the first initial L, so you must be right.
I live in Colorado now and haven't been back in years but I stop by this site sometimes to see what's going on back 'home.'

Yikes...I hope whatever is going on with John isn't serious and that he's back on his feet SOON.

1404  Date: 2007-06-23 17:02:17
Burl ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

For those hoping to hear from John he will be out of the loop due to some health issues. He had a siezure yesterday and afterwards complained of severe back pain. Atrip to the hospital revealed several compress vertebrae, it is not yet known if this is a new injury or a left over from his car wreck a few years ago. He is in the hospital right now awaiting an MRI to find out if there is an easy fix to this or not.

1403  Date: 2007-06-22 23:34:26
Burl ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

FMC I am pulling my hair out but I may be on the trail. I am glad someone is having fun with this. A couple of questions 1) did you ever ride the same bus as those of of from the lake. 2) Does your first name begin with an L. I am thinking I am on the right track.

1402  Date: 2007-06-22 20:10:03
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

FMC,
I am not real sure, but it occassionally happens to my posts also. I kind of think it is random, only because it has happened with both long posts and short posts..I do not believe it has anything to do with the content..

1401  Date: 2007-06-22 18:09:48
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sorry to take up so much space on this board. But I'm so confused as to one of my postings said it will have to be approved, then my next one went on right away but is now gone, but then the one I wrote after that is here.
What is going on?!?!

1400  Date: 2007-06-22 18:08:10
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

O.K., well that comment posted right away.
Can someone please tell me why certain comments are not being posted until approved?
I don't understand. The one I wrote, which still isn't here, did not contain any 'bad' language, etc. that might prompt a program to stop it from being posted.
Thank you.

1399  Date: 2007-06-22 17:39:13
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I will say this to Burl:
I am 2 years younger then you (I think). I used to be best friends with Carrie H.; spent lots of time out at Elem Lake. She & I were little brats our freshman/sophomore years. I was a cheerleader my freshman year and I think you were on the football team. Remember that year when everyone shaved a part of their head? I think yours was pretty outrageous, if I recall correctly. I have a brother who is 2 years older than you (I think).
It's more fun this way.
If you want to play along and guess, just provide the first letter of what you think my name is.
Or ask questions for more info. : )

1398  Date: 2007-06-22 02:08:13
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hey FMC, email Burl, he is racking his brain attempting to figure out who you are..and he will not stop saying, "poop",,,wait minute..looks like..smells like, but does not sound like poop..;)

1397  Date: 2007-06-21 23:54:58
Burl ( tankerborn2003@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:

Well I must start with a rant about what Offended told me. You have raised my ire to the Nth degree with one simple statement, that I am sure was meant to be some words of kindness or support but when ans a$$h@le like me hears it he hearssomeone feeling sorry for me do not feel sorry for me do not ever feel sorry for me for the things I have done or seen because all of those things are what make me what I am (and I must say I am something else) and what I will become. To try to patronize me is offensive not nearly as offensive as my aunt going up and down the west coast to anti-war rallies while I risk my life in Iraq, but in that she was at least standing up for what she believed so I can on some level respect that but for an individual to feel sorry for me I can not stomach. I did not make the post fishing for sympathy I wrote it because I had something I wanted to be heard and gave a little background to back up my arguement. I get upset over this because I know what happens over there and to say we should be sainted merely for getting on a plane I find rediculous, no before you all get up in arms let me explain myself. To even try to compare this to what happened in any previous conflict that was even ever called a war (i.e.: Korea, Vietnam, World Wars I & II) is isane yes there are hardships but nowhere near the horrors experienced by the young men and women who served in those eras. Hell, now an individual if they hold the proper rank is AUTOMATICALLY given a Bronze Star for a tour in Iraq. To me this honestly demeans what was done to earn such medals before. I know people who in eaction to gunfire jumped off of thier tank only to get a black eye, yet they were given a Purple Heart. This type of Bu!!$h^t is not excusable. I have more, much more respect for the men I see when I am able to make it out to the American Legion. Do I appreciate being told how proud you are? Yes, but do I want your Sympathy? No. I made the choice to join the Army and go serve in a time of war. I was not told by a bord that I would "go to war or go to jail." So please any who read this do not ever feel sorry for what I have done. Appreciate the fact the some are still willing to fight for freedom even if it turns out to be wild goose chase created by a power hungry semi-literate backwoods hayseed who only wanted revenge on a man who put a hit out on his father. OK that rant is done. FMC I must say I am curious as to who you might be because honestly Mr (I will never call him coach because he lacked any moral fiber) Mose said he wanted to have improper relations with about everything at Bethany High School too include the donkey in the pasture outside the Jr High. But of course when one does thier history they learn of a certain Kevin Crandall, who was shown how petty the politics of the Bethany School Board could be so he left and went on to successes at every stop. And that is the reason why at age 15 I knew that Bethany as a community would unfortunately dwindle until it is mere an afterthought as people head north or south on 121. I still remember my times at Bethany High School sometimes fondly often with a bout of depression but that is my home and Central Illinois will always be home (whether or not I actually admit it to anyone except those can call me on my lie) but there is a lack of leadership on display for the youth of the area so they go to TV and God forbid Music for their hereos. But of course when there might be someone to come and provide good leadership with discipline ans values these people are thrown to the side because they do not play the right peoples children. I was in town right after football season last year and was talking to a friend who actually knows something about football much more than most casual observers and asked the state of the current Sullivan team and was quite saddened to hear the the coaches son played over older student athletes with the same if not more talent if you base your starting line up on who you see on sunday at church or have barbecues with on the weekend then honestly you do not desrve the honor and privelidge of coaching young men, because in all reality you are doing nothing to help them further them selves in the future you are fostering the idea that you do not really have to work hard simply have the right genetics and all will be all right. This is something that I have fought against all my life because of where I grew up and me not haveing a last name that was on the A-list. But I will tell you all that my Dad may not have been able to give me everything but he did show that on this earth there are still a few good people. And in conclusion I want to say hello to all those who are in Sullivan and getting ready for all the fun of the 4th of July celebrations many of my fondest childhood memories center around the 4th of July, a time when people from elsewhere can see some of the best of Sullivan and it small town values. Had I not grown up in the Sullivan area I do not think I would have ever even considered joiniung the Military, but here is something that is sent down through the generartions (and not necessarily by blood) of what needs to be done in times of crisis for our country. And so a Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!!!!!!!

1396  Date: 2007-06-21 23:00:03
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I currently work in a bank, and as of 2 summers ago we had never been robbed (bank been around since 1985 or so). Then, we were robbed 3 times within a month and a half. Since then, no more robberies. Thankfully, no hostage situations here yet.
During the last robbery, the robber had a heart attack in our lobby after getting the money. So he then sat down at our new accounts desk and talked to the girl while waiting for the cops and ambulance to arrive. He was hospitalized for over a week, and he then died there. He knew he was ill before he robbed us, and he had no way of paying for health care and was just that desperate. Sad. What's also sad is that all 3 robbers chose the SAME teller, so she was pretty traumatized after all 3 of those.

1395  Date: 2007-06-21 20:58:19
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

It would appear that within the states many have simply become crazed...I agree, it seems that crazyness is no owned by only big City folk.

1394  Date: 2007-06-21 20:14:49
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

News Flash--LOL LMAF-- I loved it. And it won't matter if I can't understand the poor english because I didn't understand some of Bush's words either.
I got on here to comment on the hostage and cop shooting in Arcola. My daughter works in Arcola and that is her bank and though she doesn't live in Arcola since her re-marriage last Nov. I know that her 19 and 16 year old kids still spend most of their time there.So for a couple of hours while waiting for my daughter to get off work, I sat here in San Diego on pins and needles. Finally it came to me that both those kids have the same cell phone as me and I could call them, which I did. Sure enough they are both in Arcola but not at the bank, thank goodness. I guess you don't have to live in a big city anymore to have cop shootings and hostage situations. I'm sure my daughter will know some of the hostages because in a small town of 2,600 you get to know everyone. Sullivan is not all that much bigger. I've been gone too long now to know many of the people in Sullivan, Heck when I left town the Lippencotts still owned the news paper and they lived just down the alley from my mom's house.
Got a Dr. appt. will be back on later tonight.

1393  Date: 2007-06-21 19:32:37
News Flash ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Congress Votes to Outsource Presidency, Washington, DC (AP)

Congress today announced that the office of President of the United States of America will be outsourced to India as of July 1, 2007. The move is being made in order to save the President's $500,000 yearly salary, and also a record $521 Billion in deficit expenditures and related overhead the office has incurred during the last 5 years.

'We believe this is a wise financial move. The cost savings are huge,' stated Congressman Thomas Reynolds (R-WA).

'We cannot remain competitive on the world stage with the current level of cash outlay,' Reynolds noted.

Mr. Bush was informed by e-mail this morning of his termination. Preparations for the job move have been underway for some time.

Gurvinder Singh of Indus Teleservices (Mumbai ,India) will assume the office of President as of July 1, 2007. Mr. Singh was born in the United States while his Indian parents were vacationing at Niagara Falls, thus making him eligible for the position. He will receive a salary of $320 (USD) a month but with
no health coverage or other benefits.

It is believed that Mr. Singh will be able to handle his job responsibilities without a support staff. Due to the time difference between the US and India, he will be working primarily at night, when few offices of the US Government will be open. 'Working nights will allow me to keep my day job at the Dell Computer call center,' stated Mr. Singh in an exclusive interview. 'I am excited about this position. I always hoped I would be President.'

A Congressional spokesperson noted that while Mr. Singh may not be fully aware of all the issues involved in the office of President, this should not be a problem, as President Bush was not familiar with the issues either.

It is not yet clear if plans are being considered for outsourcing the Senate and the House of Representatives. This could seriously affect staffing efficiency at the Dell call center. Special interests and lobbyists here are expected to seriously push back on any such efforts. It is thought that saving the hundreds of millions of dollars now spent annually on campaign financing could positively affect the U.S. economy.

Mr. Singh will rely upon a script tree that will enable him to respond effectively to most topics of concern. Using these canned responses, he can address common concerns without having to understand the underlying issue at all. 'We know these scripting tools work,' stated the spokesperson. 'President Bush has used them successfully for years.'

Bush will receive health coverage, expenses, and salary until his final day of employment. Following a two-week waiting period, he will be eligible for $140 a week unemployment for 13 weeks.

He will not also be eligible for Medicaid, as his unemployment benefits will exceed the allowed limit. Mr. Bush has been provided the outplacement services of Manpower, Inc., to help him write a resume and prepare for his upcoming job transition.

According to Manpower, Mr. Bush may have difficulties in securing a new position due to limited practical or successful work experience. A greeter position at Wal-Mart was suggested due to Bush's extensive experience shaking hands, as well as his special smile.

If approved, most of the affected Congressional positions would probably revert to entry level Internet bloggers or on-call street activists. If nothing else, they may be offered jobs as reporters or TV commentators.

I'm Paul Harvey Good Day..

1392  Date: 2007-06-21 19:09:10
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

FMC,
Goodness we have been agreeing way to much lately...LOL...Goodness such language...

"I'm not saying we should TRY to offend or be rude, but we shouldn't let that fear stop us from saying what we truly think or feel."

Right on, repressed feelings can cause a unhealty desires to pick noses, and snap bras..LOL

Rant some more..!!..

1391  Date: 2007-06-21 17:04:53
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Speaking of offending...
I had a hunch there might be some offense taken when I inquired as to the qualifications of some of the NP staff; do people have degrees and outside experience, or are they often hired simply due to family connections? But I was genuinely curious about it and had to ask. I am aware, obviously, of Sullivan's size and that people from the same family are going to sometimes be in the same business. But a newspaper is, to me, a bit different than some other trades. People who write for the public normally have formal education/training/degrees, which can be very different from, oh say...working with your dad at the furniture store over the years and just picking up the skills. In larger areas one cannot obtain this kind of position without the proper credentials. BUT, this is Sullivan. I need say no more.
I have been away, visiting my very favorite city of San Francisco. Oh, and an old friend who is originally from Moweaqua (now in CA) that I hadn't seen in a decade. And there are way too many posts to catch up on. I skimmed some of them, and I see that Burl is here. Burl--shut your loud offensive mouth and stop swearing! J/K : )
I was thinking about how times have changed since we were in high school, with all the violence and teacher-student "relationships." Burl, do you remember Coach Mose? When I was a sophomore he told a bunch of guys at school that he wanted to, uh...do 'innappropriate things' to/with me, and everyone knew about it. Today, just saying this kind of thing lands teachers in some extremely hot water. And how about Mr. Banning? That sick F--- used to snap us girls' bra straps to see if we even had bras yet at the tender age of 11. Not to even mention picking his nose and eating it every single day in class...that man should not have been allowed to be anywhere near children.
O.K., I think I'm done for now.
My one last thought is that there is ALWAYS going to be someone who will be offended at what we say or do. And if we constantly try to avoid this from happening, we will only repress and hide our true selves out of fear. I'm not saying we should TRY to offend or be rude, but we shouldn't let that fear stop us from saying what we truly think or feel.

1390  Date: 2007-06-21 04:08:45
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

You go Sircher...Everyone has the right to offend, and of course folks have the right to be offended. As far as being a kook...LOL..Join my world, however I must admit openly, I did believe what I was told, and I was indeed angered...up until the truth was told..then I was angered at myself for believing.
We have no choice but to support those that are over there...but I must say that not once did I discuss my Bush feeling with Burl while he was over there...He did not need to hear it..but needed to survive.

1389  Date: 2007-06-21 04:01:04
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well I am going to jump into this fray with a few thoughts. John wil love that. He wants to see a good debate going don't you John?
Burl--I don't find a thing you said offensive, but I agree with "Offended's" right to be offended and to disagree with you. I think he/she is wrong and that is my right. I am so sorry that you had to go through that terrible experience and I hope that eventually you will be able to put it out of your mind and only remember occasionally the poor young man who gave his life because of a bunch lies told to the american people. I was against the war from day one but I can understand why some people believed what they were being told by our government. But I don't understand why they are still supportive of the government when even they have admitted that all the reasons they gave for starting a war was not true. So of course we still don't know the true reasons they wanted this war that has caused so much misery to so many people, cost the United States the respect and goodwill of the rest of the world and cost billions of dollars that our grandchildren will be paying off. Burl, I expect you do know more about what should be done in conducting this war. After all you have been there and seen first hand what is being done right or wrong, We, here at home only know what we are being told by the so-called news reporters. I don't trust them either! Now no-one needs to come up with anything about me not supporting the troops just because I never did support the war. My nephew, the only son of my little brother, that I am very close to, has done one tour in Iraq and will be going back at anytime. You can d**n well bet that I support him and all the young men that go to fight the old mens wars.
Now for a final comment that will just put me over the top as being a kook, as some people will think, I also don't believe the lies we have been told about 9/11!!!

1388  Date: 2007-06-21 00:49:03
Burl ( tankerborn2003@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:

Dear Offended & all others incapabale of handling my "language."
I am a very firm believer that a person is entitled to their right have opinion, however I also belive that when a person shows an undeniable lack of judgement perhaps someone should step in and assist them. I know that I am not perfect; far, far from it in fact but I do KNOW that I know more about what was, is, and will be happening in Iraq than even the most knowledgable newsperson (even had they been there). In my statement I expressed my opinion which I have been granted by the constitution which I was sworn to defend for 4 yrs. Yes, I may have been a little over the top with my remarks but hey if you know me then you know there is no better description for me than that. I as course of habit tend to use a howitzer when a BB gun will work I feel that people tend to actually think about what is being said that way even if only to say "wow, that was so unnecessary." As for my language I honestly doubt that many children read this post and is they do what they hear on the schoolyard is much worse than any words I chose to use. It actually took my extra time to try not to drop F-bombs all over when discussing this because it is a subject that I am feel very strongly about, and I did not want to look like a ranting moron. I can rant on and on about this subject but I leave that for myspace. I did not set out to offend but with a hope that maybe, just maybe 1 person will stop and think about what they are saying when it comes to defending what in all reality is a murderer who could be put on trial for crimes against humanity. There is little to differenciate between the war in Iraq and Hitler's invasion of Poland. Well I think that I have sadi most of what I wanted to except that in conclusion to add that I need no one to defend me and most in Sullivan and the surrounding area would probaly agree to that. But most importantly if you are going to say something as inane as you did have the common courage to at least put your name on the post. I did and I expect nothing less from a person who responds, you see it is that let me throw a rock from the cover of my glass house that has begun the end of American values. So may all who hear it know it as truth.

1387  Date: 2007-06-20 23:03:43
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Offended..
Interestly enough when I read the your "without the Language"..I thought perhaps Brother Burl had let loose his Army mouth...I then went to his post and looked for "All" the language. I looked and looked and I found one word that one might describe as "language" if not defining a cat. The other word might be "hell". Seems a bit past the "all the language.
If you are counting Liar, Backstabber, or War Dodger...you are counting silly things.
As far as the right for someone to vote even though they are voting for someone that shows criminal behavior..Sure they have the right to vote for that person. But in turn, I actually believe there is also a right for someone to disagree with great ferver...and calling someone delusional concering for voting for someone described with the adjectives used..is also a right. Is it neccessary, probably not, but because of where it is commign from, I can except it.
I did not see him using words like foolish, idiot, non-thinking, knuckleheaded, (These are the nice words compared to what he is probably feeling)

I might add, that just because one has the opinion that if one votes for Bush after knowing now, what is known..they should not be allowed to vote...is ok...it only becomes a problem if the other person actually prevents the other from voting..

Would you feel I am offending you if I said you were delusional for using the words, "All that language?" after not finding anything offensive...

As far as Americas desire to go to war...The day started in Americas eyes on 9/11 and I believe you are correct..we all did want to get the idiots...but when we were refering to idiots..we were refering to Afganistan...and with their head idiot..Bin Laden..
We then agreed to invade IRAQ..after Bush and his cronies convinced American there were weapons of mass destruction around every corner...and IRAQ was intending on using them...We based that desire to war with IRAQ off of a lie he perpetraited..Not of of real information...(the information being kept from us)..America turned on Bush when the truth came out...and can we just walk out..no...we made our bed, now we must lie in it. Will it all end..I am a pessimist on this one...I believe it is the begining of a war that will needlessly take lifes for most of our years to come.

Bush may not do the running of the country, however in his position, he can surely deal with his advisors..and I do not believe Congress said, "Come on George, lie to the public, decieve them, make them think if you do not get over there folks there going to nuke us"..

In conclusion...I hate Bush, and this is not a post to defend my brothers actions..He can take care of himself, just as I believe if Cathy is offended she can take care of herself..

Why do I have a funny feeling I know who this post is from...(all the lanquage rings a bell)

Come on folks we got sparks again..;)

1386  Date: 2007-06-20 06:44:02
Offended ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Burl, I am sorry for everything you have gone through in Iraq. I cannot imagine the tragedy you have seen, heard, felt, etc. No one should have to go through that. Thank you, and I truly mean that. However, I think that you could have stated your point without all the language. In your own words, some may take offense to those statements. Cathy has every right to say she would vote for W again. You may not agree, but she apparently has her reasons. But we all have a right to our opinion. Just because you did 2 tours over there does not give you the right to tell us that if we are Bush supporters we "should not be given the ability to have a say in the governing of this country." I am in no way trying to minimize your plight. I am just saying that Bush supporters have just as much right to a say in this country as you do. And Bush doesn't even run this country, the advisors do. Congress does. The House does. We do. How many of us supported this war in the beginning? Then we turn on Bush because he did exactly what we wanted? That's not his fault. We can't just pull out now. For that, I can see why Cathy still supports Bush. However, for many other reasons, I don't. What you did over there was heroic. We are all grateful. But you shouldn't slam people without knowing their reasoning. We are not the enemy.

1385  Date: 2007-06-20 06:29:25
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy,
My answer would depend on the amount of members in my family. If there were none, I would take it, smile, and figure I made 50.00.
If there were 100, I would also be pleased because for a mere 50.00, I got someone to pay 99950.00. This is a decent return.
As far as the race thing, I was only playing with semantics LOL. It is now time for me to play with Curtis:

Now, Curtis,
Hmm, where to start, I actually do not want to go through all the posts, but I do of course appreciate you posting the numbers and wish I could get a commission on the number of page hits made to each all the posts for which you go back. Glad to keep you busy.
That being said, I will blindly answer with what I have to go on.
(I will pleasure you with arrogance of course)
As far as people taking my word because I am in Corrections, I suppose that would be dependent on the subject. Stats are simply stats. They are real numbers and essentially open for anyone to use. They can also lie.
These stats, (Mexican Nationals) are based off numbers on hand.
They are real, and not simply small polled numbers. When I say 1% of the population is Mexican National that really is a stat, but based off real numbers. (I.e.) If you trade me
1 dollar and I give you a quarter, you just lost 75 cents or 75%. This cannot be forged or manipulated.
If the numbers are there, they are based off realities.
Bush is an idiot...guess what, we can actually probably base that off of stats...look at the number of kids hurt or killed overseas...subtract the proven reasons for being in IRAQ...and you still get the same number. Its over three thousand, and the number speaks for itself (I do not have the exact number) I could not count the lies that has come out of Bushes mouth. No not because they did not happen, but simply because there are to many to count. I support the Military, but think the president well...I will not go there.
If one uses 911 as a rebuttal...I will state very clearly...If we were going to do this right, we would have smashed Afghanistan into pieces and drug Osama and his crew behind a camel with digestive problems and large hemorrhoids.

The "common" talk, I do not understand. Please list "common talk" on your next post perhaps the New Progress will get more hits, and we can all split the page hits.
I am not sure what "This" is. You state quite loudly, ìTHIS is not about the stats you know or the stats you SPOUTî Stats are indeed real, but they CAN LIE., however I have not done that. If anyone should catch me using stats with questionable or unreasonable sources, I will gladly give the source. (I think I have done that in the past).
If anyone should catch me using bad ones or a source that is purely biased, I would be glad to bow my head and say, "I am wrong and I am a bad boyî.
As for lightening up and enjoying my position, that is funny. I hate my job, almost as much as I hate Bush. I do not enjoy my position...I HATE IT..(I think I said that twice in a garbled sentence, that should speak of my feelings for it but I must do it to support my family, support myself, and of course being the wonderful person I am, donate to my favorite charities

"Not about what I know but is about the simple life in a small rural town"...Curtis, look who posts here. I am not positive, but MOST are no longer living in a small rural town and I must ask: Does growing up or living in a small town create an impossibility to understand things that the "Big City Folk" understand? I do not think so, for god sake I hope not. Perhaps I have more faith in the folks.
You ask me to look at the polls. You also ask me to read what they state. What polls?
I stated I did not want to go back so, if you really want me to look at them, tell me which ones. However, keep in mind; Polling is a sample of a large population, which of course is a statistic. (From what I have read, you do not like statistics) nor me using them
If you point me to one, make sure the polling was done properly and by the right people.
IE.
If a poll is taken concerning alcohol and its affect on the body shows the result that 99.9% of people polled believed alcohol was:
Nonaddicting
Maintains clear thinking
Minimizes weight gain
May be utilized as an alternative to birth control

It will be easy for me to assume a high school student took the poll, and the population utilized for the poll consisted of first year college male on a Friday night in a tavern.

1384  Date: 2007-06-20 06:16:54
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis--I am still here and thanks for asking. Sounds like you have been busy. Congratulations on your nephews championship win.It sounds like he made his family pretty happy and proud. That is so nice. It's amazing how good you can get along without all the amenities isn't it. Do you use a generator for electricity? That's what I use at my desert property. and I get pretty good tv reception with an antenna. If I lived there I wouldn't have an electric bill or cable bill, garbage bill, telephone bill (my daughter pays for my cell phone)(but reception is not real greaton the cell phone),anyway I would have between $250 and $300 a month to spend on other things. Of course there would be gas for the generator to buy.
John- I have no real reason why we have so many murders but I would say all the things you mentioned might play a role and I would add the drug use to that list. Drugs are abig problems in a lot af areas and that is the reason I say we should legalize drugs. Let them go pick up their drugs and sign for them. That way we would know who was a drug user, it would cut out the dealers, the users would not do robberies, burgalries and all the illegal things they do to get money to buy drugs. Then we wouldn't have so many in prison which is a hugh cost. Now as to comparing this country with those you mentioned you forgot to take into account that we have a population of around 400 million which is way more than even Japan.
Cathy-I can't leave you out though this post is getting a little long. What I want to ask you is what is it about Bush that you like?
You didn't tell us where you went on your cruise and most of all about the good food you had. I love the food they put out on a cruise. It usually is very good.
Please do go ahead and tell us your viewpoints on the woman's movement and then I will tell you mine.

1383  Date: 2007-06-20 05:16:59
Burl Colclasure (John's little brother) ( tankerborn2003@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:

Anyperson who is actually delusional enough to admit that they would vote for W agian should not be given the ability to have a say in the governing of this country. I am unwilling to say that just because we are at war we should blindly follow the idiot who has thus far cost this country more than 3500 young lives of men and women who may have very well been the person destined to cure cancer of discover the key to intergalatic travel but no because our president had a belief that a foothold in Iraq would lead to greater stability in the middle-east. I have personally watch 1 of those soldiers die I kneeled with him on a dirty road 9000 miles from his loved ones as the last breath left his body. I am sorry but there is no way in hell that Mr Bush should ever be given the ability to make a decision that will effect others again this should include what to cook for dinner he has on numerous occasion proved himself to a liar and a backsatbber. Look closely into his past he was a war dodger himself for all of you who want to bash Bill Clinton. W instead "served" in the Air National Guard but for some reason or another never attended drill or even showed up so there was no way that he would go to Vietnam, that in my eyes makes him a pussy. I have been on my 2 tours in Iraq and have hung up my boots it is time for something I can believe in. The real problem with Iraq is the world Public because we as "civilized" society are unable to stomach the cost of war. Soldiers need to be allowed to be soldiers, or as a wise man once said hired killers, allow the soldiers to kill the people that are known insurgents and SLOWLY the insurgency will die. This war will not end by diplomacy or peaceful resolution it will only end by proving that we are willing to KILL any one interested doing anything that will hinder the wonderful freedoms of our country. This includes free speech and you are all entitled to speak your mind but remember that occasionally there are those out there who know the actual situation and may take offense to those statements. Well I hope that you all have a wonderful day. Curtis how the hell are ya!

1382  Date: 2007-06-20 02:42:04
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

What news this weekend are you referring to Curtis?

1381  Date: 2007-06-20 02:10:15
Curtis ( illinoy13@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:

Okay, my e-mail adress is illinoy13@yahoo.com. No hate mail to the news progress. Hello everyone. Been a few days and my oh my what a glorious return.Post 1370. Can that be right? 1370! unbelievable! At any rate, 1370, people should take your word John because you are in corrections and use stats?I actually had cable in Phoenix and am still a huge sheriff Joe supporter. Don't want to visit Joe, don't break the law. PERIOD! How is that grand standing or feeding on ego? Pretty up front to me John. And no John, there was never a reason for me to go to tent city. EVER. Believe it or not. But I'm sure your stats will beg to differ. Every post they beg to differ.1372! TRAVIS!!! What's up man. Missed you at J R's. Understand though. NEVER will I leave Blue AND ORANGE! Seeing Jay's face and his mom and dad and sis and grandpa and even mine when he won the OVC Tournamant Championship. You would understand. Post 1373: "Bush is an idiot" hell skipper you actually do make sense. Post 1375!I actually have the answer. They have to read your blogs to get to all the common talk and they go nuts.Dude, lighten up and enjoy life and not your position. This is not all about WHAT YOU KNOW and the STATS you spout out. IT'S about everyday life in small rural mid-west. Remember them times? Lets look at the polls before you answer. Someone may disagree.1378!! Welcome home sis! Actually didn't know you left on a cruise. Explains why no response to the news this weekend I guess. Hope is was good. What tatts did you and Brian get? That was a good post except the bush part. You know my feeloings on that, but I agree, we are the most selfish, greedy, and add power hungry, people in the world. HELL, I AM, EXCEPT, the power thing. I am happy with my little home in the country with no running water or electricity. It ain't all bad. WOW! I guess I am right up there now I wrote a John like blog. Don't that just beat all?!! Hope all is well and for you looking for me, I will be in Sullivan July 7th. Later from the tator. What happened to Sircher and FMC?

1380  Date: 2007-06-19 18:57:02
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

You're completely right about the Clinton/fireman thing. However, if someone said they were giving everyone in your family $100 to help you out, but told you that you had to give them $50, would you feel about that person? That's how I feel about Clinton. You are also correct that I should have said "White woman". However, I was raised in Sullivan and so "woman" means white woman unless I clarify. Not saying it's right, just saying that's how it is. And I don't know why we are greedy and selfish, etc. I think a lot of it has to do with the women's rights movement. There is so much I want to say about that, but I don't want to be tarred and feathered!

1379  Date: 2007-06-19 15:54:02
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy, welcome back.
You would vote for Bush again? Given all the evidence that he is corrupt..thats interesting. It would appear he is doing the best he can with what he makes up...but, who am I to question. As far as Clintons decisons directly affecting you...you state that "perhaps he was good for the nation as a whole" but not for you and your family..Would you think it would be best if he ran the country based on an individual family or group of families or what the entire nations needs are..Its obvious that one cannot please all the people all the time..Food for thought. Thats almost like saying,,,(remember I have to blow things up here a bit).."I don't like fireman because they saved all the houses on the block except mine"..Lets get rid of firemen. Isn't it?
I have to mess with you a little bit here..
If Hillary were black, would you call her a black woman..if so, why did you not call her a white woman. But just merely a woman..;)
I understand your logic concerning a vice president..makes sense. I am not sure "most" people in this country are not ready for a woman or "Black", (I am counting only those that vote, as for the rest of the folks)...thats why they might make it in office. The problem would probably lie with the non voting ignorant folks that might attempt to put a bullet in them. (But then again, I am still not in total belief that this would happen...covering ones rear by looking closly at the VP might be a good thing....
Now to the most important...You state "are some of the most, if not THE most, selfish, greedy, ruthless people in the world, and it shows in statistics of all kind" and honestly I am not sure I disagree...BUT...why do you think this is, and what do you think have caused it? Is it our relgion, history, what? I have no idea myself, but am curious what your thoughts are..

1378  Date: 2007-06-19 00:13:53
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well, I'm back from the cruise! I have a few little comments to make. First of all, I did vote for Bush and I would again. He's just doing the best with what he was given. Clinton's decisions directly affected me and my children while in Spain. So, I disagree that he was a good president. Perhaps he was good for the nation as a whole, but when my family was negatively affected first-hand, of course I think he was horrible. If it comes down to Hillary and Obama, I say we should vote for whoever has the best VP candidate, because I don't think a woman or a black (sorry if that's not the current politically correct term, but I won't call them "African Americans" because we ALL come from somewhere!)will remain in office long. I think there will be groups whose sole purpose is to get them out of office in whatever way necessary. Unfortunately, people in this country don't want a woman or a black in office and will take drastic measures to see to it that they don't. Which leads me to my last point..As far as why we have more crime than anyone, it is my opinion that we are all selfish and don't care whom we have to hurt, step on, or kill to be on top. Americans are some of the most, if not THE most, selfish, greedy, ruthless people in the world, and it shows in statistics of all kind.

1377  Date: 2007-06-18 15:52:23
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I do not think there is any fair balance..Our health care is bad, probably because we put up with it..When one is dealing with drug companies and hospitals and their control of prices we are at their mercey..and of course it is appparent they have very little mercy.
Socialized medical care seems to make sense. They have doctors and all are treated well...but I am sure with that the costs are controlled to a degree. Public aid is a lot better than most of the private sectors access...and I am willing to bet they are charge less..(The doctors supplying the care)...
Let me know when you go to Amsterdam, I will be your roomie...LOL...

1376  Date: 2007-06-16 17:33:52
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

If i was to ever move out of country i would either go to canada or amsterdam.Canada for it's low crime rates and health insurance and Amsterdam for it's attractions...lol..

No government is prefect nor will it ever be due to every person is different as far as morals and values goes.It's hard to put blame on one specific thing but i feel our leader is the one who should lead by example as far as actions taken.It seems sometimes actions are taken on a mere hunch.(WMD in Irag)(was any ever found?)I think everyone puts blame on the movies,video games etc. when maybe we or they should take a self-inventory and look at how we contribute to the problem instead of the solution.

I agree we are one the most wealthiest countries in the world however why is our health care so bad?Why is the single mother living on the streets uneducated?Why is it gas is so high but yet they say we have enough in reserve to last 24 years?Will we ever get a straight honest answer?No cause the government doesn't want us to.How many of you ever thought about if you could sit down with the president what would be the one question you would ask him?Would it be a question pertaining to yourself or your fellow man?I have a million questions i could ask but it's hard to come up with just one question that would take presidence over all the others.Being a father the one thing that affects my family is health care..Every year my health insurance cahnges as far as coverages and cost..We loose coverages on certain things and our rates go up and up.Whereas a person on public aid has far better insurance then a person who has insurance through there employers..Where is the fair and balance?

1375  Date: 2007-06-16 08:49:58
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Actually a very low amount are Mexcan National. I will check monday. I did have the figures on this computer..I think it was only 1 % of the population, however they caused about 22% of the trouble on the inside..We have to seperate them from the Mexican Americans because in essence they fight.

I recollect being in Thailand when the old cigar puffing incident went on, what blew my mind is how many folks from all different countries asked me the same question, "Why are Americans prudes?"..In many places what good old Bill was getting ragged on about was simply what comes with power. We do tend to forget that our culture is not the only one, nor can we say with extreme honesty that is simply the best. We might have that opinion, but we could not base it only on fact. (I know folks throw things at the computer)..
Ever see the Documentary, "Bowling for Columbine"..its kind of trippy and it makes you think. How is it, that there are more murders committed by United states citizens than anywhere in the world? Something is wrong..We cannot blame it on our history, other older countries had just as violent of history..Germany, Spain, France, etc..
We cannot blame it simply on Gun Control..Canada has practically no gun control, yet their murders for the entire country does not even go past 20 in a year..and I think much less than that.
We cannot blame it on Movies..lets face it, mvovies are played all over the world now days.
We cannot blame it on Video games. Japan has more video gamers than anyone in the world..and they start even younger and games are even more violent..yet they have less than 50 murders a year.
We can not blame it on poverty, because we as a whole are extremely wealthy..while other countries are not..I have no idea what the answer is...anyone care to enlighten me?

1374  Date: 2007-06-16 03:20:08
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

interesting figures john..I wonder out of all those incarcerated how many are actually citizens of that county??I agree to a extent as far as news being selective in some aspects however sometimes i think it is like in the movie GOOD MORNING VIETNAM where to the two twin reporters are sitting next to the teletype censoring what they can say over armed forces radio...Except in todays standards you have the FCC in one corner and a lawyer in the other.

Hey i liked ole slick willy.So what if he did some things and got caught but so did others before him.They just got lucky cause they didn't have the type of news reporting we do today as far as getting it out to the public.If a person was to actually go into every former presidents bio's dating back to washington you would be amazed at the things done.

1373  Date: 2007-06-16 01:53:25
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Travis,
Lets see I have a few numbers but honestly it will shock the heck out of you. Many of them probably end up in the State System the second time around. 33% of those doing time are back for a second, third or fouth round..77% are first time offenders...and 55% of the total are non-violent offenders. In Arizona about 500 out of every 100000 citizens are incarecated. (actually it is more than that, these numbers are from 2006. At the time these stats were done there was 30,000 folks incarcetated..The last count I saw was 38,500..(remember this bounces up and down every day because of new arrivals and releases.

Believr the news is heavily sensored? Come on Travis, It is extremely selective..They in essence tell you what you desire to know about, by only reporting what will behoove them and of course increase their audience.

As far as Hillary is concerned, I really have to hold back a little..Frankly and get ready to growl folks...I liked good old Bill...Why He was a good politician..Sure he might have been a heavy smoker..but so were a lot of others out there..Sure he said things that were kind of stupid..(not inhaling was the worst one to me...for crying out lound if you are going to buy good grass and not inhale it...it does not make sense that you could have an economically sound plan for the business of our country...Thats like buy a Tbone and simply putting it in the refriderator and not eating it....
:)
Obama...I am not positive...because he is too well liked by the masses..typically the masses are the messed up ones...
One thing I am proud to say...I did not vote for Bush, and never would have...regardless...he is a moron.
Porn star...would make for an interesting state of the Union adress..might actually draw some viewers..but then again, who knows...again I restate Bush is an idiot..Here me yet..!!

1372  Date: 2007-06-15 02:49:51
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John ...Yeah i am just going on the "good" things i have seen on the news about sheriff joe.And i can totally see how the over population of his jail would put officers in serious jeopardy.I do wonder though out of all his prisoners i wonder how many are repeat offenders after they are released??
Funny how the news only reports good things when it comes to certain situations.Almost makes people tend to beleive our news is heavily censored or just very selective maybe..

Curtis...It is good to know you still bleed orange and blue..Hate to loose a fan to the governors..That would be like loosin a fan to duke or north carolina..

Cathy.....enjoy the cruise and don't fall overboard!!
Well here on talk radio the new scuttle is clinton and obama in 2008..I am sorry but god help us if hillary is president..I am all for a lady in leadership IF she has the influence and intellect to help our country.But i just don't see that in Hillary...I see a big phony..I don't even like the idea if she was vice president..I would rather see the porn star from california who ran for governor as president before hillary..your opinions??

1371  Date: 2007-06-14 20:53:16
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy, I do not know why they are going down,,,perhaps cleaning up space?

1370  Date: 2007-06-14 20:52:21
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Travis,
The surface looks good on good old Sherriff Joe, it is when you get past the bull that you see..um...what comes out of the bull.
Sure he enforces the ilegal thing...but by doing this, he has actually caused some serious over crowding...which boils down to officers getting hurt. You would not applaud him if you worked for him. Nobody does. He jepardizes lives...and of course one can argue...that is the risk people take by taking on that carreer...while this might be somewhat true, it certainly does not mean that Sherriff Joe should make things even riskier..Not a good thing looking at the big picture..as a snapshot it looks good, but that is it.
Curtis, wow, you never got tired of seeing him on the news...hmm must not of had many channels..LOL...
It is nice of good old Joe to tell people how not to come and stay at tent city....obviously many do not listen. Curtis ever done anything that might have got you in Maricopa County jail? I know I have...all it took was a turn to the right, and not to the left...Luck....

1369  Date: 2007-06-14 14:49:50
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Leaving to go on a cruise today. Everyone post stuff so I have something to read when I get back!!

1368  Date: 2007-06-14 00:28:48
curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hey folks, long time not being on here. First of all the P H deal. I am far too busy not caring!! And in defense of Sheriff Joe: He will tell you straight up how NOT to visit tent city and wear pink undies and eat green bologna. I agree he is a pompous ass, but he lets you know the rules right away. I lived there 5 years and never tired of seeing sheriff Joe on the news. AND it was quite often. I worked for the USA Today newspaper in about 85-86 time frame in Wash DC and we actually wrote an article about Bessie Bingo. The people there conjured up images of Mayberry RFD! I was proud to tell them all about it. I love Sullivan and am glad to be from there. However, I now live 40 miles SW of St. Louis and me thinks I am close enough to there. Hope your son is well Sircher! And Travis, yes I'm still an Illini fan and John, hell no will I get rid of my THREE Illini tattoos. But my nephew plays ball for Austin Peay State University and I am proud of that and of him and Will support the GOVENORS!!!! The Best family has had a great newspaper since I remember getting it in about the 5th grade. Hope all is well with everyone. Later from the tator!!

1367  Date: 2007-06-13 20:42:59
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Why do the number of entries keep going down? When I looked earlier, there was 1365, now there's 1360... ??

1366  Date: 2007-06-13 02:57:39
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John you speak of the sheriff out ther where you live who is nationally known for his strict law enforcing ways...Well i applaud him of his immigration enforcement and how he disciplines prisoners...I wish more sheriffs were like him..

B.T.W I hear Paris found god while in jail...Why is it prisoners always find god when in a pile of sh..?I have always wondered that...Is it a ploy to shorten her term or is it to make fun and ridicul other prisoners?

1365  Date: 2007-06-12 17:50:20
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I tried..LOL...I ticked no one off, I am losing my touch. ;)

1364  Date: 2007-06-12 02:51:02
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I liked Cathy's answer best. Short,sweet and to the point!

1363  Date: 2007-06-12 02:30:38
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Goodness, everyone is surprising me...LOL, I figured at least someone would jump me for kind of standing up for her.

1362  Date: 2007-06-11 18:00:19
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Regarding Paris Hilton: who gives a rip!! She is rich enough to hire a designated driver. She didn't. She got caught. She went to jail. She got out. She went back. Whatever. As long as she's not out driving drunk on the roads!!

1361  Date: 2007-06-11 17:34:06
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well Lookee,
I was WRONG Hilton said she would do the time. I still bet she could have got out. However it is probably a good move for her to say, "I repent, for I am an evil doer"

Travis, I agree, it does seem a bit harsh..I think this is battle that will pop up bettween the Sherriff (not Arpiao) but the one in La...She will still get out early because according to Califoria law, she is to get time off her sentence for each day, but of course since we just saw someone get pretty much railroaded hard, it would not shock me if this law was violated..
The judical system is screwed, but this is reflected all kinds of places. My kid got caught using crayon on a bathroom wall..writing the name "Delta" in Graffitti form..This of course was a bad thing and I do not condone it...(his life became a living hell for a while after that)..The school kicked him out and made him go to another school. Two days later a kid got caught with a 1/4 ounce bag of Chronic (Marijuana Grown underlamps)..he got two days suspension...Kind of silly...Ever further, The school that my son got sent to..went from Monday - Thursday from 8:30 to 1pm. Same amount of Credits...however they did not have to do homework because it was done in class..Plus he got a free city wide bus ticket for the time he went to the school (Last year)...So as far as punishment, he actually got very little..

Seems like our system is screwed up everywhere..

Oh for all of you to know. Burl just got out of the Army. I am picking him up at the train station on Wed at 1;20 pm...Out of the Army now, and very pleased that he is.

1360  Date: 2007-06-09 21:29:45
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sent comment, but I guess it has to be approved. ;)
I saved it just in case for some reason it does not make it, I will give it a few hours..I think perhaps the approval is based on length..I went over it and was noting (naughty)...unless of course mentioning the idiot sheriff is a no no..LOL

1359  Date: 2007-06-09 20:50:46
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sircher:
LOL, I knew it would get someoneís attention and frankly I have the same feeling about Hilton, in a world of reality, who really cares. Yes its bad to drink and drive, and yes she should be punished...but the ridiculous thing is that the media has spun this thing completely out of control, then of course those so called professionals have taken it to another tier. As consumers of information this country has strange tastes.
As far as that idiot sheriff is concerned, I have seen the inside of things concerning him. He is a pompous, arrogant, self promoting jerk, and how he gets elected, I will never know, I kind of thought the folks with brains did all the voting.
The pink underwear thing is just one of his flighty moves. He did it because he claims the underwear were being stolen by inmates. Good god, if they were stolen where were they taking them? On top of that, I am betting someone could actually sell a pair on eBay and maybe get a little money out of them since of course they came from "tent' city.
I was in a meeting once and this piece of work and he actually offered me a pair of signed pink boxers. .I looked at him and actually said, "why would I want those?" thus began our relationship LOL. I thought the entire thing was nothing more than self promotional.
The strangest thing to me is the media lets him sit on these stupid panels. Why? He is an idiot that does not really represent law enforcement and their thinking. He should be locked up in a funny farm. As far as the green meat is concerned, this guy is proud of the fact that he can feed human beings green meat. Sure jail should not be a place that one wants to go, but the whole point of incarceration is to take away freedoms, not necessarily dignity.
The job of a correctional officer is simply to make sure people do not escape, obey the rules, and of course represent law enforcement in a positive manner. There job is not to punish. If punishment was the case they should be given a rack to torture. The meat, the underwear, and the tents are simply away to draw attention to himself and of course to screw with the inmates heads. It is not a wonder that assaults on staff occur constantly. I would be in a foul mood myself.
As far as Hilton is concerned, they should make her do ads, help kids, clean up a community, donate money to madd, donate money to dare, any thing that is positive.
It is saddening that folks are so into watching others getting punished.
Oh there is the argument out there, "Gee you know how many things she gets away with just because she has money"...well in reality, I would probably get away with a lot if I had money. But Hilton was born with money, she did not chose it, I was born without money I did not choose it...It is no more her fault that her parents and family are rich, than it is mine that my parents were not. Are people going to trash me because I was not born with it? Itís doubtful, so in return why should she be trashed.
Then of course, the argument could be made, she acts like a spoiled brat, she is stuck up, but the fact is, do we know that? We know what the media chooses to tell us. They write, what they believe we want to read...Lets face it, we read it, and watch it, because they print it, and tell it. Not the other way around.
Come on folks I know there is cheering going on someplace on this board...lets fight. .LOL

Wow, neat an approval thing..

1358  Date: 2007-06-09 16:58:22
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

ok on the hilton deal...I think it's a little harsh but i do applaud the judge for sticking wiht his ruling regardless of her state of popularity.However i just seen where a lady killed her husband in his sleep i belive and only has to serve like 257 days....But i have also seen people convicted of meth and get just probabtion...I think the judicial system is just like our current governemnt..SCREWED UP!!!!!!!!!One thing about it the judge just made paris hilton a lil more richer..Like she needs any more fame or money..


BTW...Sullivan singers are sponsoring bessie bingo this year on the fourth at wyman park!!

1357  Date: 2007-06-09 15:39:07
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

OK, John I'll bite. Actually I don't care one way or another whether Paris is in jail or not. It's not like she is a violent mass murderer or something but on the other hand she should not be treated differently just because she is rich and a celebrity. The thing that bothers me most is all the media coverage about the whole business. What a circus. There was actual news that could have been reported but it was real hard to catch it because the media tells us that they report what the people want to hear about. If this is actually true then it is no wonder our country is in the mess it is in nowdays. I saw your Sheriff Joe on, I agree, he loves being on tv spouting his archaic form of justice. His methods borders on abuse.I don't mean the pink underwear or stripped clothing but green bologna sandwiches twice a day is going a bit far. I do agree that maybe Paris Hilton got caught between some kind of political thing between the sheriff and the judge. And to me that's the bad thing about the whole deal.

1356  Date: 2007-06-09 08:38:39
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Here comes a hook....What does everyone think of Paris Hilton getting out early...Which way do you fly..
I have to say, through watching the Media play itself to death and listening to people that simply love to watch the big folks fall, it has been fairly intersting. The fevor people show for someones misfortune can be amazing...I was listening to someone ranting and raving about how this woman should get it and get good..Then I heard her say, "i love it when rich people fall"..I had no choice but to ask a silly question.
What would rather see a rich person fall, or a poor person inherit millions? The lady looked at me and said quite frankly "Well watching rich people fall"
I would at least say she was honest..but I think her answer gives a bit of insight.
At first glance it would appear like the answer would not make a difference but think about it. It seems to me that if one has a preference it would shine a bit of a light of bias thinking..The tough part is answering the question honestly...

For a bit of my thought...
I think she did wrong, was sentenced, got released one way or another...then of course got a bit of a taste of political behavior in action.

Technically, I will state what will happen next, and I know I am right...She will stay for the two days, then get out.
In this case regardless of what peoples beliefs are, she was convicted and released by the Sheriff for whatever reason...(does not really matter)..a county sheriff has the right to do such things. However I have to state I think the Judge might have been stepping on himself a bit...
If the sheriff made a mistake letting her out..(which in fact he did not only because of the overcrowding, it is on him...Bringing Hilton back almost seems like a bit of a double punishment..If the judge has a problem he should probably be dealing with the Sheriff..(But in that state, or most others, the sheriff of that size a county, is going to run thier own place...Thats kind of like a judge comming into the Arizona State Prison and telling our Director to run things a certain way..It simply does not happen. Most judges have a fairly limited idea of what actually goes on in a prison..
What little bit of the media coverage I saw frankly disgusted me..Who do they have as a person putting his proffessional opinon in..none other than Phoenixs own Sherriff Joe...Folks I tell you what, I saw him on television, then I met the guy..what a jerk..and I am in that particular business..I am not a bleeding heart be nice to inmate sort of guy, but this guy takes things past the point of normal. His ego is so big, I am surprised he doen't have his own zip code.
He is really into the pink underwear thing...hell google the words and it will probably take you to him..
There that should stir things up a bit..LOL

1355  Date: 2007-06-09 08:14:53
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Here in Scottsdale you have to pay a pretty good penny simply to go, (no including the Tux's etc)
As I recollect prom, I think my date was Kurtis..LOL My then girlfriend, later on first wife was already out of school and working..LOL

1354  Date: 2007-06-08 15:03:08
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Yeah, they have 8th grade graduation here, too. The girls wear formal dresses, get their hair and nails done, the whole nine yards. Parents give their kids laptops and other ridiculous "prizes" for completing jr. high. I agree with you, John. They also have "Winter Formal" here. It's like Prom in January or February. Then you have the actual Prom in May. Whoever thought up this crap didn't have daughters, I guess. My daughter has had 4 formal occasions (which means 4 formal dresses because she can't be seen in the same one twice!) and she just finished her sophomore year! As far as my son, he is going to boot camp soon. He is joining the Marine Reserves for now so he can go on a two year mission, then he will become active duty. Somewhere in there I hope he gets his degree. It's a lot easier when you're young, trust me!! I hope he doesn't wait until he has 6 kids and try to go back. That was tough!

1353  Date: 2007-06-08 04:15:22
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy..It goes faster and faster, like a runaway train...LOL..
In Arizona they have 8th grade graduation. I do not recollect anything like that..I am not really in agreement with it, only because it seems that the reward of graduation seems so much bigger when it is a first time. On top of it, I wonder sometimes if the drop out rate might increase because of the too numerous pats on the back..I know there is another thought to it, and I suppose that thought is to keep feeding postive things in the little ones brains and they will go even further..I am not so sure that is true..Sometimes I think they get patted when it should be something taken for granted..You passed 8th grade
no biggee now go do highschool..Congratualtions on your son graduating highschool, now he can follow his mothers footsteps and get a degree..so he can make some decent money..and god knows in California he is going to need it..;)
Oh yeah, don't forget to have him learn another language...not to make it easy on those that do not speak the language...but to flex his head ..LOL

1352  Date: 2007-06-07 23:34:00
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I may just have to come back for the 4th just to take photos of Bessie Bingo..otherwise they may not believe me!! I love the small town newspaper. I remember taking a field trip there once when I was young. Mrs. McHatton was there, wasn't she? I still have all the clippings from when I was first in the paper at the young age of 5, I think. Every issue I was in, the paper would send a complimentary clipping in a little folder-like thing. I have them all in my photo album. That was neat. You can't get that in a big town! Tonight my son is graduating from a high school that has over 2500 students. And that's just one of 6 high schools here. Each graduating senior gets 5 tickets, so my son's whole family doesn't even get to go. What a shame. I miss SHS. My graduating class had 68 kids. Whoever wanted to come did. My kids don't know half of the kids in their own class, let alone the whole school like we did. And most of the schools under us. We could wear red shoestrings, red shirts, and red ribbon in our hair if we wanted. Not here. They get interrogated and then sent home to change clothes. I guess I'm babbling a bit because it just seems like yesterday that I was graduating, now my second son is walking the stage tonight. Where does the time go?

1351  Date: 2007-06-07 22:35:33
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Rock on Bobby! ;) I am glad I did not tell everyone about the 5k a month you send me as a blogger..LOL

1350  Date: 2007-06-07 20:03:49
RR Best ( newspro@newsprogress.com / no homepage) wrote:

Bessie Bingo....the game is still played here, and Bethany, and Arthur, and Lovington.

The News Progress....FAMILY newspaper.

My dad and mom taught me and my sister, and now my wife and I are teaching our children. Proudly I might add.

Its not a requirement to be related and HAVE to work here. So far it is what we want to do.

FYI-FMC, my sister has never put in a full week here at the NP, however what she learned here from my parents has given her the knowledge to be the Metro editor of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, The Seattle Post-Intelligencer, and The Baltimore Sun, and presently she is the Managing Editor of the Seattle Times website.

Best thing about working your family members, you don't have to pay them much!!! LOL

I want to thank all you bloggers here for defending us here at the paper. We are just small town people trying to put out a small town newspaper as best we can.

1349  Date: 2007-06-07 17:28:39
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hello folks,
I am not dead, just resting..LOL, I figured I would give folks a chance to take up some space.
Curtis are you know going to get the Illini indian burned off your leg?
Sircher; Did the recoupertion going.
Cathy: Good god, they made it clear that you could not do it..Let me tell you, they are lucky I was not there..What were they going to do, keep your diploma? give you detention? Call your parents? Call the students, "bad students", or the almighty, "Make it part of your perminant record"..Me personally I would hire you simply for it being on your perminant record..thats Moxy..;)
Cut me a break, they do not have that kind of power. But I do understand not doing it, after you worked so hard finishing it..Me, I suppose I have a bit of a dare streak in me...
FMC: Heck apply for a job, perhaps you could do some stories from the News Progress, related or not..what the heck, it could not hurt. The thing to think about, in a small town, it is doubtful that there are tons of people that actually want to do the job, and probably even fewer that are capable..only because the labor pool is smaller..and of course if being a journalist is not something thats in the water, the percentage of those folks able is probably limited..
Think about it, It kind of makes me wonder how many people open this guestbook, read it but do not write..Heck we may be part of the New Progress team already ;)
Travis:
I would tend to agree that having a family working with you is not a bad thing..I am not so sure I would want to work with members of my family on a regular basis..(not that the family is bad, just honestly do not believe we could put up with each others Shenigans)

1348  Date: 2007-06-07 00:30:21
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well, thanks for the congrats! Graduation was great. Didn't blow any bubbles. They made it clear at practice that it wasn't allowed. I worked too hard for my BA that I didn't want to risk getting in trouble!! Sircher - how is your son? Doing well I hope. John, where are you? Curtis - how was the game? Haven't talked to anyone. I have a question for anyone still in Sullivan (since a lot of us are out of state!)...do they still play "Bessie Bingo" on the 4th? People out here think that's hysterical.

1347  Date: 2007-06-02 00:10:52
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

FMC--Travis is right. a lot of people in a small town are related and people like me still has relatives iving in Sullivan. I remember telling my daughter,when she moved back there "don't be saying anything negative about anyone to somebody because the chances are good that they are related to that person."
Cathy- Congratulations on your graduation and I certainly hope you blew a bunch of bubbles.
Curtis- I don't recognize any of those teams you write about but then everyone knows I am sports illiterate. But it sounds like you are having a good time and supporting your nephew and that's a good thing,
John--Where are you??? Hope you aren't sick or something. It's not like you to go so long without posting.
Well I got to go fix dinner. Son and family is recuperating here after his surgery on Tuesday.

1346  Date: 2007-06-01 00:14:22
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

FMC.....Its a small town everyone has family members working with them somewhere in this town.Heck if i was brought up in the news industry by my folks i would be working for the paper..Only makes sense...It's called "GOT A HEADS UP ON HOW THINGS WORK"
It doesn't matter where you go in this town there is gonna be family working with or for family..I consider it a perk in a sense.The family that does work together at our paper knows there stuff when it comes to productions of i think 3 papers..They were probably raised for the better part of there life in the press room and so forth.The best family has lived and breathed news for many years here in the big city so they know what they are doing ....Just look at ALL the awards they have recieved...I think it speaks volumes for a family ran business..

My own personal opinion it seems family ran businesses aeem to stick around longer then some non-family businesses..

CURTIS i thought you bleed orange and blue??I don't know if the illini gods can forgive you since that loss to the governors is something that WE will never forget..But hey i'd be guilty too if i had family playing at some university that beat us in one of the most important games of the season..

CATHY blowing bubbles at graduation sounds fun...Maybe the faculty thought they were weapons of mass destruction..

1345  Date: 2007-05-31 20:10:04
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I'm curious...how many people who write for this paper are related to the owners/operators?
Can I write for the paper? I could use a little extra cash. What is the criteria for getting hired? What do I need to do to apply?
I know cronyism is extremely prevalent in our society, and that the Bush administration has done such a fab job at being the shining example of it. But I would hope the NP staff is being hired based on real qualifications and credentials. I'm not saying that's not the case, but from an outsider's perspective, it certainly makes one wonder...

1344  Date: 2007-05-31 15:44:33
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I just heard on the radio that a principal in Dripping Springs, TX won't give the graduating seniors their diplomas because they blew bubbles and passed around beach balls. OMG. What the heck! These kids are on their way to getting jobs, going to the military, getting married, whatever life has in store for them. They just did 13 years of schooling, and can't have their diploma because they blew bubbles?? I graduate from CSU tomorrow. Maybe I'll blow some bubbles just to show my support for those kids!!

1343  Date: 2007-05-30 23:50:22
curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Excellent, excellent Memorial weekend. Austin Peay won the OVC conference last weekend in Paducah Ky. This weekend,I'm off to Nashville to watch them play Vanderbilt in the regionals. Vandy is No.1 in the country. Other than the ballgames, I cut grass, drank beer, and even used a little foul language. An awesome weekend I think. And Sircher, before you know it, your grandbaby will be all grown up and you will wonder how that all happened. Seeing my nephew after 9 years, I cherish going to his ballgames now. Life happens so fast. Love it! GO GOVERNORS!!!!

1342  Date: 2007-05-29 03:42:43
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hello to everyone and thanks to Curtis for the good wishes on a safe holiday. I didn't do a thing except work on my computer with tech support so I was nice and safe although my computer is a mess. LOL I now know more about this computer than I ever wished to although it didn't get fixed.
It's after 8pm California time so a lot of you are hopefully home safe and sound after a 3 day holiday. Hope so anyway. Write and tell us how you spent the weekend.
My son goes in for back surgery at 5:45 in the morning and I get to babysit his 2 year old daughter. I may be pulling my hair out because she is a very busy little bee.
FMC--I completely understand your being stressed about your laptop having problems. I also spend way to much time on my computer and now I have spent four days trying to get it straigtened up. Seems I just can't leave it alone and I'll bet tech support is tired of me. LOL I think I will put everything on dvd's and run the recovery disk and if that doesn't work then it's trash.

1341  Date: 2007-05-26 03:10:05
curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I hope everyone has a safe and excellent memorial weekend. Be smart and don't take chances! Y'all just be safe and return home to your families. GOD bless and please be careful this weekend. THANX!!

1340  Date: 2007-05-26 03:02:09
curtis ( illinoy13@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:

Anyone remember when Austin Peay beat Illinois in the NCAA? I do very well. Now 20 years later or 15 or however many years it was, I proudly wear the Austin Peay colors. Why? you might ask. My nephew is the second baseman for the Govenors!! I will be in Paducah,Ky tomorrow rooting on Austin Peay. No, never thought I would do that, but I am a Govenor fan now. Go red and black! Later from the tator

1339  Date: 2007-05-23 16:30:04
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I just heard a co-worker say recently that a friend of hers has a 3 year old girl, and that girl has a Louis Vuitton purse. The little girl knows it's a status symbol, and the mom wants to keep it that way. She wants her daughter to follow in her footsteps of always having $300 sunglasses, $1000 purses, etc. It makes me sick. There is nothing wrong with having nice things, but it really makes me think about how out of whack our priorities can get.
It's been a while since I've been really ill, but I remember the last time. I couldn't leave my house or even get off the couch for 3 days and the only thing in the world I wanted was to be well again. Things didn't matter; I would have given up half my belongings to get better because at that point I thought I was going to feel that way forever.
I find that the more expensive things I have, the more stressful my life becomes. I rely too much on my laptop, and it's been giving me lots of trouble lately. I've been so stressed about it! And when something goes wrong with my car, I usually don't have any money set aside to fix it and so there is another huge stress. I think I need to minimalize. Maybe I should become a Buddhist. LOL. No, but my husband attends Naropa University and it's a Buddhist-based school and I do love their idea of focusing much more on life itself instead of things and the day-to-day, like Cathy was talking about getting away from just to have fun for once.
So Cathy--I am not doing anything right now to have fun and relieve stress, but I need to! I will make that a priority. It can be so hard, especially for me right now as I am trying to figure out what to do with my life--need to find a new job, a new place to live, etc. within the next couple of months and nothing is coming together. Even more reason to go have a good time!

1338  Date: 2007-05-23 06:31:24
Cathy ( no email / http://www.youtube.com/v/ervaMPt4Ha0&autoplay=1) wrote:

This was sent to me and it was something I thought I would share with all of you if you haven't already seen it. It's very touching!

1337  Date: 2007-05-23 01:40:47
Curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Travis! Still here.

1336  Date: 2007-05-23 00:44:04
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Wow,
You have interesting kids.....I worked from I think 7th grade...it was to pay for my Car, Gas, and insurance..(If I did not keep the insurance up, I did not drive)...As for as cell phones..I hate them, and honestly only have one for work. My kids do not have them..Yes, I know..saftey and all that..I suppose I am a risk taker.
I live in a place where I am surrounded by 1 to 10 million dollar homes..Most of my kids parents are extremly well off...I do not hold it against them, however I recollect a kid getting a new Ipod..His was 2 months old..My son offered to buy the old one..and he smashed it in the ground..When My son asked why he did it..He said, simply, "Because I can, I got another one, and if that breaks I will get another one"...This is taking it a bit too far.

1335  Date: 2007-05-23 00:05:59
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I agree, not too old! My kids beg to go to summer school so that they can be one step ahead in school the next year. They take History or English or whatever, just so they can free up a period next year to fill it with another class so that colleges will be impressed. When I was a kid, summer school was just there to make up a class you didn't do so well in. Here, it's to get ahead. What is so flippin' important to colleges that they can't just let kids be kids and enjoy the summer off? Good grief!

1334  Date: 2007-05-22 18:15:21
Not too Old ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

It seems like more kids work now days than they did when I was in school, which was over 20 years ago. I think they are missing the point of being a kid. They work so they can pay for their cars, cell phones, downloads, gas, movies,clothes etc......it's more important to just be a kid for awhile. There is too much keeping up with the kid that has parents that can give them those things. I'm not bashing those parents either because I give my kids plenty. I sure have great memories of the cruise circuit and sitting in Big Jims parking lot.

1333  Date: 2007-05-21 22:46:43
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Travis,
I kind of noticed the "nothingness" when I came back recently. I was amazed to find no one driving around in circles like we used to do..All seemed dead....Perhaps kids are getting smarter than we were to a degree, at least they are not wasting gas
Sircher..I tend to escape from work by hitting this site every now and then..not retired, but I sure would not mind it. (I know becareful what you wish for....but for some reason I still think I will take the chance. ;)

1332  Date: 2007-05-21 03:06:26
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hi! It's nice to see some of you back on again. Everyone must have had a busy week. Anyway it seems like a while since you all posted.Of course being younger you probably have a job and a family to keep you busy. My kids live in Alaska and Illinois and I am retired so I have a TV and my computer. LOL And I wholeheartedly agree with Cathy. Everyone should set aside one day of the weekend just to do something fun. All work and no play.......
Travis, the mention of old Nelson brings up memories although when we went there it had a bridge across the river. Lake Shelbyvile was put in after I was long gone from the area.

1331  Date: 2007-05-21 02:18:46
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Spent the weekend down at old nelson(kaskaskia river) and out at lake shelbyville.The beaches are suppose ot be opening but i don't know since the lake is so low...Out of all the places that i had fun at back in my school days those 2 places are still the same and haven't changed.It is funny how now on weekends you see no kids cruising or hanging out at big jims pizza or where ham n egg use to be..Matter of fact you see no one out on the streets after 7 on the weekends unless it is boaters heading home..

1330  Date: 2007-05-20 08:11:39
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I can't tell you Cathy..any respect you have for me would be gone..LOL I am glad you had a good time. :) Smelling the roses is not a bad thing..unless of course you are alergic to roses..or there is a Bee flys up your nose..and what are the odds of either being true?

1329  Date: 2007-05-20 05:42:28
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I just had to get on here and say that I had a good old fashioned water balloon fight today and it was sooooo much fun. You (or at least I) get so caught up in the day to day crap that sometimes you (I) forget to have fun. I really made up for it today. I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. So, the point of me telling all y'all this is to challenge you to forget the bills, forget the job-related BS, forget the age, whatever it is that you need to forget, and just get out there and have fun! I feel younger and stress free today! And for those of you who know my life, that is saying a lot!!! So, if you are up for the challenge, let me know what YOU are doing to get out there and have fun and relieve some stress. I need some more ideas so that I can keep this going. It's awesome!

1328  Date: 2007-05-18 03:21:34
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I have not...but then again I am in Arizona...;)

1327  Date: 2007-05-18 02:54:06
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hey I finally got to chat with someone in the chat room and they lived in Sullivan. I check in there once in a while and a few times I catch RR and chat with him but usually there is no-one there. I think the time difference messes it up for me. While it is still pretty early here, it is getting to be bedtime for the folks in Sullivan. Has ayone read some of the dicussion that has been in the Mattoon paper about the Patriot Guards?

1326  Date: 2007-05-16 19:38:39
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

See folks.....Just because your paranoid does not mean someone isn't watching you...LOL

Rachel, I think it is the host...They have had problems in the past...(I wrote them once when this one was down)...

1325  Date: 2007-05-16 17:32:31
Rachael ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I'm the only one who can delete posts, and i didn't/wouldn't delete any posts here (except for the spam) so hmmm, that's odd

1324  Date: 2007-05-16 15:42:29
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Naw, I did not believe Bobby took it off, nothing offensive YET..LOL...I believe it is the host. I really do not think they are doing it on purpose, I think that sh%t simply happens. We will get over it.
ummmmm (5 M's): I suppose you are refernceing the quotes..1322...I am not sure why they all go together.."History is always in the making"..ok that is logical, "If what you know or print today is not the most important thing of that day, tommorro will be boring and sleep inducing"..I am not sure, however perhaps if someone does not bring something to attention, things will never be discussed..and we will simply do nothing..On Lennons quote..of course, it kind of goes with the "Sh%t Happens" except replacing the "Sh%t" with "Life"...He died way to young.

1323  Date: 2007-05-16 14:54:51
ummmmm ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

i dont get it

1322  Date: 2007-05-16 06:40:03
Lyrel Olson ( theolsonswest@gmail.com / no homepage) wrote:

History is always in the making. If what you know or print today is not the most important thing of that day tomorrow will be boring and sleep inducing. "Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans." -- J. Lennon

1321  Date: 2007-05-16 05:11:01
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

yeah, I just looked and mine is back, too. When it disappeared, I rewrote some of it and now they are both on there. Sorry for that folks!

1320  Date: 2007-05-16 02:06:31
T ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

1295 not 1259

1319  Date: 2007-05-16 02:05:46
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Ok i must apologize i just went searching through the book here and found my posting has reappeared(1259) Weird though huh..

1318  Date: 2007-05-16 02:03:26
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I didn't think bobby would pull the entry cause i know his paper is a factual and report all newspaper.So that was the farthest from my mind....But if the person who did pull it would please let me or let us know why the postings were pulled so i or we would not make the mistake of putting something in we shouldn't.

1317  Date: 2007-05-16 01:53:50
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I don't believe it's censorship but there was a glitch because the same thing happened to me and then when John posted that his post had disappeared and then re-appeared I went back and looked and mine had also re-appeared.

1316  Date: 2007-05-16 01:29:04
RRbest ( newspro@newsprogress.com / http://www.newsprogress.com) wrote:

No censorship from this end.....perhaps its the host, guestbook.de

1315  Date: 2007-05-15 18:21:26
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I don't know. I posted a rather long one. It got on there and then I came back like 5 minutes later to say something else and it was gone...??

1314  Date: 2007-05-15 16:53:38
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

What brings that up Travis? Did you get sensored? I think I did but it reappeared..not sure, perhaps I am just nuts.

1313  Date: 2007-05-15 01:45:55
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

God i love censorship.........what happened to the freedom of speech?I guess like the rest of the constitution.....slowly fading away...

1312  Date: 2007-05-14 02:30:51
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

He is hiding...perhaps he is still asleep..

1311  Date: 2007-05-14 01:21:41
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Did curtis fall off the face of the earth?I knew he was in sullivan last weekend figured he would have popped up on here this last week....hmmm

1310  Date: 2007-05-13 23:32:41
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I second that...

1309  Date: 2007-05-13 15:48:06
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY to all the mothers.

1308  Date: 2007-05-11 15:32:34
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Wow it reappeared, how did that happen. I know I am not nuts...I read and re-read, and the posting was about two hours apart...

1307  Date: 2007-05-11 05:19:42
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hmmm
I thought I said it once, "I am happy for you"..looks like the post either disappeared of I did not hit the "write down" button :0

I agree Travis...I suppose we live in a free market world where folks can do what they desire..but I still think it sucks....and it is off course similar to diarrhea, after all it is crap..;)Nail them with the great United Anti-Spam Company;)

1306  Date: 2007-05-11 02:37:03
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Um.....I am an Independent Consultant with Anti-Spam United.

Spam is like diarehha...IT SUCKS!!!!!!

1305  Date: 2007-05-11 00:36:09
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Thats wonderful. I am extremely happy for you ;)

1304  Date: 2007-05-10 22:14:28
Lucia ( no email / http://www.luciag.myctmh.com) wrote:

I am an Independent Consultant with Close to my Heart Scrapbook & Stamping Company.

1303  Date: 2007-05-10 04:33:11
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

She recieved it from one of the posters Aunt..LOL...I will not give names since Monty does not use his..oops did I say that?
Anyway...Did it change my mind, not entirely however did of course make me reflect a bit, and some of it I do agree with...
The one thing that stood out to me was the authors themselves..it is a husband and wife team from a very conservative party....as you might be able to see, I am pretty far from that side...
I am not sure I can actually go with thier thought that South Africa is a model of the future Western World....South Africa has been through a lot, and by thier descripitons especially the retoricle questions asked, "How do you clean up the blood and entrails that litter your suburban streets?"
A little hefty.
I do agree that there are cultural differences which a typical american might find horrendous at first glance..
One example that I will give is a remark made by my brother of course who was in IRAQ..He was talking about how crazy the people were because they used their hand to wipe thier rears..Well, in reality, it is not hands that are used, it is a hose..No there is no toilet paper...but the fact is, they do get clean. I know this from traveling around south east asia..they use the same principle..A hole in the ground, and a hose..and of course a towel..(I could not get used to using a towel already hanging in the bathroom)...but I dealt with it, and soon believe it or not did not care...Just a matter of adjustment....No its not like I want to rip my toilet out of my house and make my deposits directly in the hole...but you get my drift..(I got graphic only for your entertainment)

I also saw statements like "Will you cave in, like you did on flying the Confederate flag?" as kick starting..or attempting to..Does not work.

The final "They will exploit your compassion and your Christian charity, and your good will" seemed like an attempt to change our way of thinking..perhaps it is just a warning...Personally..I chose to remain compassionate regardless of circumstances...it that is a weakness...I am sure there is a strength someplace to make up for it..

1302  Date: 2007-05-10 01:58:41
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Proud--I have experianced one of those disappearing posts. I wrote to thank you for keeping all of us, far from "home", on everything that happened.I for one appreciated it very much.The people of Moultrie county are GREAT!! They really know how to step up when one of their own is having troubles. I know because I have experianced it my self when I was back there for my mothers funeral and less than a month later for my husbands memorial service. Truthfully I was overwhelmed by their thoughtfullness and generosity.
John- Thank your mom for that thought provoking article. Could you ask her where she got it? You state that it presents the other side of the coin to your stance but you don't say if it changed your mind any at all. I can't say that it changed my mind about anything but it sure made me want to do a little research. And the story about the meeting in California has made me wonder if perhaps we have been taking political correctness a little to far.

1301  Date: 2007-05-09 15:52:39
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I recieved the following from my mother, this of course gives the other side of the coin of my stance concering immigration: It is long, but rather intersting:

A Warning for America from South Africa
By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of parliament, still reside in South Africa.)

People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).
Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveal trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country.
America's structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups, your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved or ignore politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to losing your Western character.
Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences, writing your Congressman - that is what you know, and what you are comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political accountability.
But woe to you if - or more likely, when - the rules change. White Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to cope with the new rules of the game - violence, mob riots, intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power from the haves - Americans, like others before them, will no doubt cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately their way of life.
That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was there and I saw it happen. Faced with revolution in the streets, strikes, civil unrest and the sheer terror and murder practiced by Nelson Mandela's African National Congress (ANC), the white government simply capitulated in order to achieve "peace." Westerners need peace. They need order and stability. They are builders and planners. But what we got was the peace of the grave for our society.
The Third World is different - different peoples with different pasts and different cultures. Yet Westerners continue to mistake the psychology of the Third World and its peoples. Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe are perfect examples of those mistakes. Sierra Leone is in perpetual civil war, Zimbabwe - once the thriving, stable Rhodesia - is looting the very people (the white men) who feed the country. Yet Westerners do not admit that the same kind of savagery could come to America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves. The fact is, Americans are sitting ducks for Third World exploitation of the Western conscience of compassion.
Those in the West who forced South Africa to surrender to the ANC and its leaders did not consider Africa to be the dangerous, corrupt, and savage place it is now in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Those Western politicians now have a similar problem looming on their own doorsteps: the demand for power and treasure from the non-Western peoples inside the realm.
It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the armies of the ìpolitically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy them a few more votes, a few more days of peace.
White South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We are not so very different from you.
We lost our country through skillful propaganda, pressure from abroad (not least from the U.S.A.), unrelenting charges of "oppression" and "racism," and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his compassion, his belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your neighbor" philosophy - none of which are part of the Third World's history.
The mainline churches played a big role in the demise of Western influence throughout Africa, too; especially in South Africa. Today's tyrants were yesterday's mission-school protÈgÈs. Many dictators in Africa were men of the cloth. They knew their clerical collars would deflect criticism and obfuscate their real aims, which had nothing whatever to do with the "brotherhood of man."
Other tyrants, like the infamous Idi Amin, were trained and schooled by the whites themselves, at Oxford, Cambridge, and Harvard. After receiving the best from the West, they unleashed a resentful bloodlust against their benefactors.
From what I have seen and read thus far, I fear Americans will capitulate just as we did. Americans are, generally, a soft lot. They don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they were wronged. They like peace and quiet, and they want to compromise and be nice.
A television program that aired in South Africa showed a town meeting somewhere in Southern California where people met to complain about falling standards in the schools. Whites who politely spoke at the meeting clearly resented the influx of Mexican immigrants into their community. When a handful of Chicanos at the back of the hall shouted and waved their hands at them, the whites simply shrunk back into their seats rather than tell the noisemakers to shut up. They didn't want to quarrel.
In America, the courts are still the final arbiters of society's laws. But what will happen when your future majority refuses to abide by court rulings - as in Zimbabwe. What will happen when the new majority says the judges are racists, and that they refuse to acknowledge "white man's justice"? What will happen when the courts are filled with their people, or their sympathizers? In California, Proposition 187 has already been overturned.
What will you do when the future non-white majority decides to change the names of streets and cities? What will you do when they no longer want to use money that carries the portraits of old, dead white "racists" and slave owners? Will you cave in, like you did on flying the Confederate flag? What about the national anthem? Your official language?
Don't laugh. When the "majority" took over in South Africa, the first targets were our national symbols.
In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now experiencing - invasions of private land by the "have-nots;" the decline in health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair; the banishment of your history from the education of the young; the revolution of your justice system.
In South Africa today, only 9 percent of murderers end up in jail. Court dockets are regularly purchased and simply disappear. Magistrates can be bribed as can the prison authorities, making escapes commonplace. Vehicle and airplane licenses are regularly purchased, and forged school and university certificates are routine.
What would you think of the ritual slaughter of animals in your neighbor's backyard? How do you clean up the blood and entrails that litter your suburban streets? How do you feel about the practice of witchcraft, in which the parts of young girls and boys are needed for "medicinal" purposes? How do you react to the burning of witches?
Don't laugh. This is quite common in South Africa today.
Don't imagine that government officials caught with their fingers in the till will be punished. Excuses like the need to overcome generations of white racism - will be found to exonerate the guilty.
In fact, known criminals will be voted into office because of a racial solidarity among the majority that doesn't exist among the whites. When Ian Smith of the old Rhodesia tried to stand up to the world, white South African politicians were among the Westerners pressuring him to surrender.
When Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe murders his political opponents, ignores unfavorable court decisions, terrorizes the population and siphons off millions from the state treasury for himself and his friends, South Africa's new President Thabo Mbeki holds his hand and declares his support. That just happened a few weeks ago.
Your tax dollars will go to those who don't earn and don't pay. In South Africa, organizations that used to have access to state funds such as old age homes, the arts, and veterans' services, are simply abandoned.
What will happen is that Western structures in America will be either destroyed from without, or transformed from within, used to suit the goals of the new rulers . And they will reign either through terror, as in Zimbabwe today, or exert other corrupt pressures to obtain, or buy votes. Once power is in the hands of aliens, don't expect loyalty or devotion to principle from those whose jobs are at stake. One of the most surprising and tragic components of disaster in South Africa is how many previously anti-ANC whites simply moved to the other side.
Once you lose social, cultural, and political dominance, there is no getting it back again.
Unfortunately, your habits and values work against you. You cannot fight terror and street mobs with letters to your Congressmen. You cannot fight accusations of racism with prayer meetings. You cannot appeal to the goodness of your fellow man when the fellow man despises you for your weaknesses and hacks off the arms and legs of his political opponents.
To survive, Americans must never lose the power they now enjoy to people from alien cultures. Above all, don't put yourselves to the test of fighting only when your backs are against the wall. You will probably fail. Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake: They care not for the high-minded ideals of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, and your constitution. What they want are your possessions, your power, and your status.
And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will fight for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and your Christian charity, and your good will.
They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your weaknesses well.

1300  Date: 2007-05-09 01:22:03
Proud to be from Sullivan ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well I have no words for the pride I felt driving with the funeral procession into Sullivan yesterday. I could not stop my tears. It was a very tragic thing for Mark & Candy to loose their son, but they can be sure that the community will never forget him. This was a moment I will remember the rest of my life. Thank you Cole for protecting our freedom.

1299  Date: 2007-05-08 21:18:46
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy,
It is interesting, how when one sees such tragedy, Perspective kind of comes alive and shakes us. The one good thing about small towns that no one can really put down, is the love and support that is generated in thinks like this occur. This simply does not happen in big cities, or if it is, I surely do not notice it.

1298  Date: 2007-05-08 20:27:29
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

After reading posts like the last one, it makes our snivelling ridiculous! What can you say after that? I didn't know Cole, but I knew his mother. Even though I haven't seen her in over 20 years, it still feels personal somehow. Sullivan is such a tight community and it's times like these that makes me realize how good it was to live there. All of you who still live there are blessed to have such a big "family" - it's just tragic that it takes such a devastating thing to help us recall that. I went to the site John listed and it was all I could do to contain myself. I am proud to say that I am from a place with such great, caring people. I haven't lived there for many years, but it will always be "home" to me. My heart goes out to Candy and Chick and the whole family. I can't even imagine.

1297  Date: 2007-05-08 02:56:29
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

To Proud to be from Sullivan Il- Thank you for keeping us, that are far from home, up on things. Sounds like those small town people know how to treat other people in times of need. Of course I already knew they did. Six years ago I was there for my mothers funeral and a month later for a memorial sevice for my husband and I got a good dose of their help in everthing, from tons of delicous food to anything else I might have needed. At eighteen I couldn't wait to get away from there but now I love going "home".

1296  Date: 2007-05-08 01:54:47
Curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I spent the week-end in Sullivan and too witnessed the "patriot gaurd". I was lost at first and then realized why they were there. I am extremely grateful to be from there. Sullivan has changed a great deal, but remains the same. Anyone that passed McMullins this weekend should be very proud of our men and women in uniform. It was very touching to me. Even at midnight when I drove by there, they were still there. And as well,I didn't personally know the young man, I did know his mother and uncle. My heart goes out to them and anyone touched by him. It is certainly a sad day back home. Good night everyone!

1295  Date: 2007-05-07 21:47:27
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

This afternoon i had the honor of paying my respects to a american hero.The streets were lined with people young and old that were also paying there respects.I didn't know this young man but by the time i left i can honestly say i found out a little bit more what the meaning of "hero" is.In my brief life of 35 years i have never witnessed such a spectacular showing of patriotism in my life.There was people from all walks of life in attendance.From the people that are looked up to too the people we all have made fun of at some point in our lifes.But for that brief moment this young man...this american hero brought everyone together to show the one thing we ALL have in common and that is...COMPASSION for our country and our troops..To that i say thank you PFC SPENCER thank you for your sacrifice to open all of our hearts and minds to what we all share..That common bond of faith.

I don't know if this will get back to this particular person but i want to say a very big thank you to Matt Kracht and his students at SHS.What you done really made me appreciate my alma matre and my town.That flag that 30-40 some kids were holding up was amazing..You have made a significant imprint in the minds of those kids and the citizens of moultrie county..Right now i have a feeling that i wish i could just share with everyone and i owe it to a brave american hero from moultrie county..Anyone who reads this i ask you the next time you see a vetran or active duty service person tell them "thank you"
god bless you Cole Spencer..

1294  Date: 2007-05-07 21:28:39
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Man, when stuff like this is posted, it makes the rest of our sniveling (sp?) seem really petty, huh? I just went to the site John posted and could hardly contain myself. One thing that nobody can take away from these "small town small minds" (as we have been called on occasion) is the sense of family. Everyone pulls together at times like this and forms a strong bond that no one can tear apart. Here in California, you wouldn't see my community coming together at the loss of one of America's heroes. We have had those who have paid the ultimate price from Modesto and surrounding towns, but all they get is a 30 second blurb on the news, and then it's on to other business. To have people who never met Cole or his family write such wonderful sentiments touches me in a way I can't explain. Sullivan may not be known for being on the cutting edge of anything, but it is known for being a true community. No one can say different. To hear what the riders said about Sullivan made me swell with pride, and I haven't lived there for years. All of you who still live there really do have it good. I hope this makes you realize it again if you had forgotten. I haven't seen Candy for over 20 years, but I still feel that this loss is personal. That's just how it is when you're from Sullivan, or perhaps any small town. Know what I mean?

1293  Date: 2007-05-07 19:42:38
Acting Jock ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

The remarks made in the previous statement, makes me proud to say that my real home town is Sullivan. Even though I have been in Naples twenty plus years, I still call Sullivan my home.
And those of you that are still there, read the previous statement and be proud.
we have had a couple of KIA's in Naples, and nothing was done on this level.
Sullivan you should be proud, and I am proud of you.

1292  Date: 2007-05-07 01:27:22
Proud to be from Sullivan IL ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Today I attended the visitation of PFC Cole Spencer. I also attended the arrival of Cole into Sullivan yesterday. These two moments will stand out as the most touching moments of my life. I am sure the funeral tomorrow will also be a very touching moment for me. Cole was escorted into town by approx 40 Patriot Guard Riders, the Army Honor Guard, the local fire dept, and police units and several family members and friends. This sign was overwhelming. The Patriot Guards also stood in honor at the funeral home all night, escorted Cole to Gays today, will stay with him all night tonight and will escort him to the cemetery tomorrow. These people are incredible! I spoke with the ride captain today and his direct quote was "People that say Patriotism is gone have never been to Sullivan. We had people offer to open up their homes to us to do whatever we needed." This statement coming from a man that has attended numerous events such as this makes me so proud of my hometown. I would like to thank everyone in Sullivan for coming out and showing their honor and respect for one of our great Heros! I was told that this is the first soldier KIA in 40 years that was from Moultrie County. I only wish it could have been longer. RIP Cole and thank you for your sacrifice.

1291  Date: 2007-05-06 17:44:59
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

To all the following was sent to me by my mother: This takes you to a guestbook to sign for the parents and family of PFC Cole Edward Spencer

http://www.legacy.com/jg-tc/GB/GuestbookView.aspx?PersonId=87761260

1290  Date: 2007-05-06 12:55:20
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Travis--Yhank you so much for sharing that with us. You painted the picture so eloquently that I also got tears in my eyes.

1289  Date: 2007-05-06 03:34:44
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sircher,
My mother asked me to say thanks for explaining, she has apparently sent messages to the Cambel twins class via some service...
Poster, You cleared it up for me personally, Chick was a year behind me in highschool...again, in a small town it would appear everyone either knows each other or a relative.
Travis,
From what I have read, I believe he may be the first..Burl made it through, but honestly I do not think it was what one would call healthy for him.
As far as Curtis, and I...Travis you "aint" seen nothing yet..wait until we finally get mad..LOL...then it really gets fun.
As far as Paris, you know I read an article someplace the other day, on how folks in LA pay a little extra, and get a cell to themselves, this keeps them away from the General population, it seems to me that the price is something like 1200 a day...if of course the judge lets her take that course...
I honestly have to say, in my life time, I have been caught driving on a suspended licence twice...I believe it was a ticket issue..(about two decades ago) and not a drunk driving thing,...seems like 45 days locked up is kind of stiff...but then again, with the drunk driving and her pretending that she did not no she had a suspended licence, combined with the fact that she did not do rehab as told..this is probably a good thing...Perhaps there will be a new reality show..who knows..She will come out of it smelling like a rose..I do not think her parents had much of a choice...her mother was not pleased with the judge...
Do not feel you are the only one that forgot about the Native Americans, I did too until "I wonder" brought it up...but an excellent point...
Travis, you should have snapped a picture of the folks guarding thier own..that one might have made the paper...It is interesting how this country can draw together when it really needs too..regardless of where one comes from, in the end we will all fight for each other...even the most fickle of us...

1288  Date: 2007-05-06 03:00:03
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I just seen something that brought a tear to my eye..As i was going to pick up my daughter from the school this evening(10 p.m) i was driving past McMullin Young funeral home and gaurding the doors to the home was to veterans holding the flag while a large amount of american flags were flying in back of trucks and motorcycles..American heros gaurding one of there own..A American Hero...Just a amazing site..

1287  Date: 2007-05-06 02:16:03
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis sorry i missed you..I was in Eureka.mo at my daughters singers performance..John & Curtis it is truely funny at times listening to you both.Especially when it is about difference of views.
I too agree with a previous poster i did not know Mr.Spencer but he is a hero in my eyes for dying for our country..I could be wrong but i think he is the first soldier to have died in the war who was from moultrie county...Maybe BOBBY B. could help me out on that one..
Also i couldn't believe what i seen on the morning news(5-4-07) about the small Kansas town destroyed by a tornado...That is terrible...
Native american issue.....I was ignorant not thinking of them..My bad!!!
As far as Paris Hilton going to jail...I love it..I wish more celebs would get there true punishment when convicted of crimes they put there pants on the same as us common folk right?
However i am surprised Paris Hilton's parents have not donated or paid a substantial amount of money to get her out of incarceration..Maybe mom and dad are gonna teach her a lesson..I know my dad did when i got in trouble with the authorities..

1286  Date: 2007-05-06 01:52:56
a poster ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John, Curtis, Cathy and others:

I am sure that you also know more family members of the brave man who died, Cole Spencer. His mother is Candy (Webb) and Uncle is Chick Webb.

1285  Date: 2007-05-05 15:16:23
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I believe anytime someone dies in the service of thier country, they of course died for a cause much greater than themselves. The bravery these guys show in the face of death is something I doubt if all can really understand.
I believe my mother did know her, it seems she knew everybody.
Regardless of ones opinon of the War, Spencer died for his country, ia considered nothing less than a true American hero. He fought for his country, and even volunteered to do it. This takes real not only takes intestinal fortitude, but a very good upbringing.
He will be missed not only by his family and friends, but by his entire country.

1284  Date: 2007-05-05 14:49:43
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis, I would like to echo your comments about Spencer Cole. I, of course did not know Spencer but you know in an area like Moultrie County you almost always know a relative or some kind of connection. In Spencer's case I went to school with his grandmother, Wilene. John your mom may even have known her. The Campbell twins were pretty well known. I, of course feel really bad for any young person killed while serving their country but it always seems to make it a little bit worse when it hits close to home. I hope Spencer's family knows that people all over the country are saddened by the loss of this great young man.

1283  Date: 2007-05-05 14:07:05
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis,
You made no comment on Americans and Native Americans...Have to wonder if the Native Americans sat in thier talking circles and pondered on what would happen to THIER country if they learned to speak English...guess it did not matter, we slaughtered them and took thier land anyway.

1282  Date: 2007-05-05 14:03:19
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis..
What is the dog saying.,..that is probably what matters:
Why is Blue Cross Blue Shield paying for the vacations..These hospitals are providing better treatement for certain problems than the US can..and cheaper. My point is American is wonderful, but we definity have something going wrong..and in this case, the price and treatment is so lopsided..this is not the insurance companies fault but the medical administraitors fault for keeping our prices so high and not watching our standards.
Will learning these language help you in missouri..sure why not...learning just about anything helps...not that you will use the language, but you will learn how to learn..
Does everyone use what they learn..Hell know, I said that...but the whole point is not neccessarily using what is learned but incorporating it into your experiences. Make life easier...come on curtis, why would they become more complacient...just because you learn the language..do you have to use what you learn to speak with them.not really that is up to you. Curtis, do the math on the hiring and firing of someone..exactly who is the one in charge..the workers or the owners..especially in the days of no Unions..the owners..this was not a slam on thoughts but merely pointing out..who is actually responsible..I reread what I said in 1258 and stand by it. No one said her thoughts did not matter, and I believe Cathy knows that...It is good to stand up for Cathy...but realize...Cathy is an extremely bright...(and cute) woman...she can handle herself..watch...she will probably be comming after me after I post this..LOL.
Why would I slow down my travels...ah..perhaps you should speed yours up?...Standard? I set no standard. Why set a standard...that would be saying that folks in Moultrie county would never understand..and do not want to reach..I will not accept that, they are just as open as anywhere in the country..times are changing...even for sullivan
As far as everybodys thoughts counting...goodness, I believe everyone here knows I respect what they say, I just do not always agree with what is said..is that so new?. They do not always agree with me..whos right? Who really cares?,,,at least we all voice our own opinion...that is a good thing..causes for a bit of mental stimulation..
You know me too well, if you wish me to "get on the same train" as other folks...I will leave you with one of grannys sayings..."Wish in one hand and Sh*t in the other, see which one fills up first"...or "If wishs were horses, beggars would ride"...can't really say if these saying relate for sure, but you know how granny was..a bit confusing at times. ;)
Oh before I forget: Happy Cinco De Mayo!

1281  Date: 2007-05-05 02:10:09
Curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I actually just read the news briefs. My thoughts and prayers do go out to the family of PFC Cole Spencer. I am sorry for your loss and thank you for a great individual. GOD bless all of you!

1280  Date: 2007-05-05 02:02:18
curtis ( illinoy13@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:

Maybe I missed it, but not mention of my dog barking in American. Nodody cares that he is barking in the wrong language? Okay, 1261: Why do I want bluecross/blueshield paying for my vacations? Isn't that just as bad as bluecross/blueshield paying for other things they shouldn't? I know, goes with the territory of working with the government.And as far as needing my imagination from post 1260, will German,Spanish,French or potageese help me in rural Missouri? DOUBTFUL!! 1262: KUDOS! 1263: Sircher; very very good post and I do agree with you. However, with Nafta, aren't the good jobs there now? They can't get on at the factories there? Just wondering.1257: KUDOS AGAIN!! 1258: B S John> You make life easier by becoming one of them. You speak in thier language and they become complacent in society and before you know it, there goes the neighborhood. 1259: Travis, we agree far too much. Kudos again buddy.1260; John, not everyone that goes to college increases thier abilities/or use them. We went to school with several that got degrees and have been working in the factories the same as non degreed people. So I find that to be BS.1258: John writes... Cathy... that is BS... She is writing her thoughts and you John are writing that her thoughts are BS! You do the math pal. I'm not college degreed, but college educated and I can read and understand. Re-read 1258 and tell me I'm wrong. Her thoughts matter as well as Sircher,Fmc,Travis,AJ, and everyone that writes in here. Maybe you should slow down your worldly travels and get back to the common folk of moultrie county and those formerly of moultrie county.Your answers and opinions are not always the standard here. ENOUGH SAID! sorry guys. Later from the tator.

1279  Date: 2007-05-05 00:51:25
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Ha Ha,
Indeed she is, does this give you pleasure? Or are you merely stating fact..or both.
Does she have it comming...sure if everyone else would get the same sentence. Other than that, I would not be pleased knowing most people are going to jail...not a fun place to spend ones 45 days..

1278  Date: 2007-05-05 00:45:53
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

FMC.
It would seem as a rule, people are not real comfortable with change anyway...I doubt we could recognize the countries make up in a two hundred years let alone 500...might be bad, might be good..in reality it is irelevant..it simply is what is is, and will be what it will be...Suddenly demanding that we stay a course and do not change would not be accepted by most of the population anyway..in the end we would be considered a third world country, because even those that are considered that now are in a constant state of change.

1277  Date: 2007-05-05 00:11:36
HaHa ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Paris Hilton is going to jail.

1276  Date: 2007-05-04 19:30:34
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

i wonder--
Part of your point is one I have been trying to make here for a while. But some people just don't seem to be getting it or don't want to get it. Our country was formed by wealthy white males in power hundreds of years ago. And it's stayed a white majority for a long time. But it was never written in stone that it's going to stay this way forever. Things happen, and whether we like it or not, the US is changing. People can fight it all they want, but it's going to be an uphill battle that most likely cannot be won. I'm not saying I like it or I don't; I'm simply stating the fact that our country is obviously changing.

1275  Date: 2007-05-04 18:57:58
i wonder... ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I'm just saying history has a way of repeating itself. White people came here a mere 500 years or so ago and look how much this country has changed. Who's to say in another 500 years it won't change just as dramatically?

1274  Date: 2007-05-04 15:08:25
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Here is a few reminders; I think a few people still remember;)
http://gbgm-umc.org/umw/joshua/nativeam.html
http://www.nativeweb.org/pages/legal/amherst/lord_jeff.html
http://academic.udayton.edu/race/06hrights/GeoRegions/NorthAmerica/UnitedStates02.htm
http://www.wfn.org/2001/12/msg00008.html
http://www.religioustolerance.org/genocide5.htm
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/9134/

1273  Date: 2007-05-04 13:43:03
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sircher:
I am guessing that many of the folks that show up at your door are so poor that they do not even have televisions,,because I know that Mcdonalds adverstises on televison on tv stations in Mexico..
As far as the Indians go, I would suppose our forgetting about the Native Americans might be because we can kind of rationalize, with things such as casinos....Since you know some Native Americans you probably know how gentle the people seem as a whole..or at least those I have encountered..I am not sure if this is a cultural thing that is natural or something caused by the years of oppression etc that have been caused.
The other part of this story probably can lead you to the American Indian Movement and Incidents like Wounded Knee...see http://www.freepeltier.org/peltier_faq.htm To these folks the real crimes against them have not been paid and casinos will not do the trick...I suppose all cultures have skeletons in the closet...even ours...

1272  Date: 2007-05-04 09:12:24
PRAN Jacob I. Florey USN ( jacob.florey@navy.mil / no homepage) wrote:

You will be missed Cole Spencer. You are truely an american Hero in every aspect.

1271  Date: 2007-05-04 03:29:45
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I wonder-
I don't think we can know how the Native Americans felt since that is long in the past and most of them are dead as opposed to the illegal problem being in the here and now. My kids went to school with a lot of Indian kids and none of them ever brought up the subject. Now of course the Indians are cleaning up with their casino's . We had a good friend who got paid off by Caifornia several years ago as well as her 4 kids because of their Indian blood. In fact we have been friends with, worked with and been around quite a few Native Americans over the years and if those from way back when had any animosity towards anybody I don't think they passed it on.
John- The border cities and the big cities such as Mexico City have McDonalds but they don't have them in the little villages in the interior. I have had illegals come to my door that didn't even know enough english to ask for work. I know a smattering of spanish so with that and hand signals we could communicate. I never hired any of them but I did feed them much to my husbands dismay. He used to tell me that they had our house marked but I think it was probably because we have an older spanish style house and there isn't a lot of them in this neighborhood and a creek runs along one side of the house which they would follow.

1270  Date: 2007-05-03 22:09:16
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I wonder:
Great Point!!!!

1269  Date: 2007-05-03 20:01:24
i wonder... ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Speaking of coming here without permission and taking things away, I wonder how the Native Americans feel about all this.

1268  Date: 2007-05-03 19:32:22
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Travis heres the funny thing...

Luis Miramontes: Invented Birthcontrol in 1951
Victor Ochoa: Invented a windmill, magnetic brakes, a wrench, and a reversible motor, and the Ochoaplane (Foldable wings)
JosÈ Hern·ndez-Rebollar invented the Acceleglove, a glove that can translate sign language into speech.
Felipe Vadillo:invented and patented a method of predicting premature fetal membrane rupturein preganant women.
Juan Lozano invented the Rocket Belt. Juan Lozano's company Tecnologia Aeroespacial Mexicana sells the Rocket Belt for a hefty price.
Severo Ochoa received the 1959 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for the synthesis of ribonucleic acid (RNA), an organic compound that carries hereditary qualities in all reproduction.
Mario Molina discovered that the release of CFCs could destroy the ozone layer in the stratosphere, allowing more ultraviolet light to get through to Earth and potentially increasing the rate of skin cancer. Her efforts led to CFC production being banned in most countries, and she received the 1995 Nobel Prize in Chemistry.
Luis Walter Alvarez helped design a ground-controlled radar system for aircraft landings and with his son developed the meteorite theory of dinosaur extinction. (1978)

There are a lot more, heck I did not even deal with the actors, Comedians and entertainors..nor the Drs...

No need to appoligize for loving your country, you have something to love...however in Mexico, I doubt that there is as much to love..Again realizing thier rate of education is less, and thier poverty stricken folks are a lot more plentiful
No need to learn the language in Mexico to order food..most understand more English than they let on. Ever been to Mexico...They already know how to say quarter pounder in ENGLISH ;)..They have McDonalds..LOL

1267  Date: 2007-05-03 17:07:58
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Ok Curtis i am still laughing at post # 1255.


"As far as your logic goes.....How in the world would learning a foreign language give the foreign folks an upperhand?..I am not seeing this..Use your imagination on the answer, you are going to need it." well john it is quiet simple the way i see it...We as AMERICANS are not visitors in our own country.We bleed red,white and blue we speak AMERICAN.These illeglas such as mexico have the colors green,white and red and they speak spanish not AMERICAN.Why should we change our ways to accomadate these illegal visitors??If i went to mexico yes i would learn to speak spanish so i could order my beef-n- bean burito with a shot of jose'.But do you honestly think that when they come across the border they begin weeks or months in advance learning how to say quarter pounder in AMERICAN?I really doubt it.

You are right John as far as everybody was brought up different therefore views and opinions are different.Thats what is so nice about AMERICA.We can do this(discussions) and not worry of reprocussions like many in other lands.Maybe i just belive in my country to much to want to leave..Maybe the illegals don't belive in there country and thats why they want to leave..Who knows..Everyone wants to come to the u.s.a for it's freedoms...Well thats fine just don't do it at me the taxpayers expense..Do it legally or stay home..This is my country,my land, and the country that has got me freedoms today..Mexico hasn't gave me anything but Chico from chico and the man and Julio from sanford and son.....Sorry i just love my country...

1266  Date: 2007-05-03 16:26:47
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Ohhh, I see, I meant the statement was BS...not your opinion..LOL..As far as supporting your president, believe it or not I understand. When Burl was in Iraq, I voiced the same opinion, however after Burl returned and after speaking with him, boy did things change..I just got ticked..
Nobody said an opinion was better than another...your are reading to much into it,,or perhaps I am just and insensitve bastard..not sure. I have the sadness for the opposite reasons you do...again, but we have the sadness in common..LOL..I do not believe anyone said you were uneducated, or an idiot...so where is the nonsense..

1265  Date: 2007-05-03 16:07:08
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Ummm. John...post 1258. Anyway, thanks Sircher!

I know that not everyone will agree, but if we all agreed on everything we'd all hate tomatoes! I love reading people's opinions. I may read a viewpoint that I had not considered before. I don't have the answers to everything and am not so set in my ways that I cannot change. I feel very strongly about some things and am glad I can get on here and express them. I support our President. Most of the other posters do not. That's OK. Sad to me, but OK. I believe illegals are taking from us. Others welcome them. That's sad to me, but also OK. My point is, everyone is entitled to their opinion. While we don't share the same one a lot of the time, it doesn't make YOURS better than MINE, or vice versa. It doesn't mean I am an idiot if I have a different view. I am not uneducated because I have not come to the same conclusion as someone else. So, I for one believe that we can have awesome conversations/postings/whatever without resorting to such nonsense!! :P

1264  Date: 2007-05-03 15:35:08
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy Cathy Cathy...Who said your opinions were BS...was not me...merely attempting to get to root cause, by tracing things back to the root. As for the percentage of group that are ilegal aliens, I found this on the net.:
"The illegal alien population is currently 70 percent Mexican, with 30 percent coming from other countries.24 Latin America, including Mexico, is the source of 90 percent of illegal aliens entering into the United States" from (http://www.desertinvasion.us/data/invasion_numbers.html#otm)
Travis...you state that all the aliens have to do is swim a river, jump a fence etc to take a job away from American...you forgot something...They have to be hired...Again, nail the idiots that hire them. Wonder what would happen if the goverment was allowed to sieze all the assets of someone hiring them..as far as I am concerned it is the same thing as a law enforcement person siezing a house or car because of drugs being found in it...it is ilegal.
As far as the country stepping in to ensure that that prices were decent on items made in the country, I simply do not see it happening...Thats that free enterprise stuff at work..and of course netting the biggest returns for stakeholders in corporations is the CEOs main job. Is it right? I really cannot say..
The problem with all this is the long term reprecutions that could occur because of eliminating ilegals...Yes a strange thought...but think if the price of food stuffs or services suddenly went up because the companies where passing the extra cost of hiring legal workers on to you, it is not only possible but probable.
As far as how, we make life easier for foriegners...I still do not see what you are saying..exactly how is thier life easier..because they have to adjust less? Culture is a big thing to adjust to, probably tougher than dealing with the language.
An interesting point you make is we that we fought for our rights freedoms etc...the other thing we fought for since the begining was to have a country that was accepting of all those that come to live and enjoy the same freedoms...In essense we fought for the right for members of other countrys to jump in our giant melting pot...
I think the founding fathers probably had no idea it would come to this..I am guessing they probably tended to lean toward the dreamer side and not the realist..who knows.
As far as those that need welfare, I of course agree, that is one of the things we pay taxes for, and I simply cannot find what percentage of folks on welfare is projected to be bogus...Different sites say different things which appears to be depenent on thier needs...Would be an interesting figure to find.
Cathy while agree that we cannot know everything, I tend to disagree concerning the education. We can all be educated, and to an extent even discussing these on this board is an education to some. Our opinions if not based on education are often based on what we have been exposed to...or the enviorments we were brought up in. These eviorments are somethimes good, and of course sometimes bad...keep them comming folks. ;)

1263  Date: 2007-05-03 06:15:12
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy, your opinions are NOT bs and you have the right to have any opinion you want and the right to express it so please continue to do so. While some of us may not agree with all of them, I enjoy reading what you think on any subject. Actually I can think of at least 3 different ideas about a job loss to illegals. True the employer should be blamed for giving them the job and it is against the law for them to do so but then again if the illegal was stopped at the border like they should be then they wouldn't be there to take a job and also if the country of Mexico could get a decent economy going then the mexicans would not need to leave to be able to feed their children. I think the best solution would be for Mexico to figure out how to take care of their own citizens. Of course not all the illegals are Mexican although the biggest percent of them are. I don't think our government will ever be able to enforce the law about hiring illegals because the practice is so widespread that it would be impossible to get around to them all. Unless they could pick out a few to make examples of and make those fines so steep that it woud make other employers think twice. I really have mixed feelings about a lot of the illegals. I can understand doing whatever it takes to feed your family. But I also know that so many of them is starting to hurt our quality of life here in the USA. Several of the hospitals around here have closed down the emergency rooms because they could no longer afford to treat people who can't pay. That hit close to home a couple of weeks ago when I had to call the paramedics for my son and saw him sit in the truck for 15 or 20 minutes while they tried to find where to take him. I know from volunteer work I used to do at the schools that the teachers have to spend extra time with kids who don't speak english. Little by little that brings down the level of education for all in the class.

1262  Date: 2007-05-03 02:14:30
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

sorry my opinions are BS. we can't all know everything and be educated on everything and have all the correct opinions like some of you! :)

1261  Date: 2007-05-03 02:07:03
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Another thought on other countries...why is it that so many countries have citizens that can speak very good English....hmmm..could it be our schools are becoming second rate...Heres one for you, do you know that some blue cross blue shield cliets are actually getting their trips to Singapore, Hong Kong..and yes even Thialand paid for...you know why, (I just attended a conference on this in the Phillipines...yes, I know how to get a tax write off)...They do it because the international standards set in these countries are higher than our own...whose fault is that..those in the Mexicans? LOL...cannot blame them for everything...

1260  Date: 2007-05-03 02:04:15
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis,
Interesting thought about not everyone needing oportunity...I would agree some do not, however I am willing to bet even if one did not go to college, it is doubtful you would find many parents in this country that would say, "Do not go to college, decrease your abilities"
Yes this is not the same as learning another language, but since it is a requirement to graduate from college, I thought I would toss it in. ;)
As far as your logic goes.....How in the world would learning a foreign language give the foreign folks an upperhand?..I am not seeing this..Use your imagination on the answer, you are going to need it. ;)

1259  Date: 2007-05-03 01:57:12
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John american to me is the right to bear arms,freedom of speech,the right to vote,the right to fight for yours and mine freedom...We are not forced into those things nor do we have to do those things or support them..You ask how do we make illegals life easier by learning there language...simple...We are not a foreigner in our own country...They are...Why should we adapt to there ways....We fought for our rights they didn't...They need to learn and live by those things...We bust our butts everyday to enjoy what rights we do have...All they have to do is jump a fence or swim a river and take a job away from someone who needs it...A AMERICAN who needs it.
As far as welfare rats i agree it is widely abused however there is people who need it.Like for example Jane doe a mother of 2 who just lost her job cause her employer moved it to south america or wherever.Or the little old lady who is widowed and has no family or pension to rely on..I honestly make it a point to look on items today to see where they are made..And if it is something i need and it is made in AMERICA i buy it..However that isn't much cause virtually nothing is made in AMERICA anymore..But i feel our government could step in to these companys and work with them to keep them here things might be different..

1258  Date: 2007-05-03 01:38:35
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy...that is BS....The boss would have surcumbed to the almighty dollar...It is his fault not the Mexicans..
Travis, teach me American Would you?
Learning another language is not a bad thing, it only opens doors..Learning is good regardless..How in the heck would you make the ilegals life easier by learing their language? That does not make sense..yes, you might end up being thier boss, because you can speak to them...but thats it.
You suffer higher taxes not only because of the ilegals who again come because the bosses of the world worship the dollar and it is cheaper...are we getting pissed off at India because most of the telemarketing is based out of that country now..cut me a break..if you get mad at anyone get pissed at the welfare rats..(not the ones that actually need it, but the ones who get it because they can)
As for working in Highschool..Travis you know we lived in Sullivan..at that time I recollect a black family moving in town for a very short time..I do not even beleive they made it in to the school year...a brick got tossed in thier window..As for anyone else foreign..hell they did not exist in Sullivan..seeing African Americans in Decatur was like watching National Geographic.
What does it tell me about those making products in other countrys..it is simply cheaper...Would you be willing to pay double the price for the Made in American Tag...if so then go feel free, you can still do it...As for our President..I agree, he is a knuckle head. Curtis I will get back to you

1257  Date: 2007-05-03 01:08:30
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Ok here it goes...First of all I am AMERICAN therefore the only language i need to know is AMERICAN!!Secondly Bush is a murderer and should be tried for what he has done to our servicemen and women.I support our troops 110%.i support our president 0% that is my right as a AMERICAN..I do not trust anyone who is of foreign origin ever since 9/11.I still feel to this day that 9/11 could have been prevented..
Why should i have to learn a foreign language in my own country?To me that is giving my freedom to that foreign person..Make them learn my language if they come here.Why should i make illegals life easier here when i will suffer eventually by them weather it be in higher taxes,crime rate going up which will coincide with higher property taxes..We are slowly becoming a minority in our own country..Think about it..When i lived and worked down in metro st.louis i was a minority at my place of work..It is happening everywhere...I bet for the mostpart that when you John,curtis,cathy and others worked in high school you weren't the minority at your jobs let alone probably had few if any foreigners,minority's, or illegals..Those words weren't even in great use like they are today..Heck back then things were made in AMERICA..Today they are made in mexico,thailand,vietnam,and so on...Whats that tell you...

1256  Date: 2007-05-03 01:05:02
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John - if the illegals hadn't been here and meddled their way in, grandpa's boss wouldn't have succombed to temptation and bowed to the almighty dollar and laid off the citizens to hire them.

1255  Date: 2007-05-03 00:49:03
curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I forgot to mention I have a seven year old "english boxer" for a room mate and even he barks in AMERICAN. Maybe I should check his papers again because he could actually be an "AMERICAN boxer" What a complicated world in which I live. Go figure.

1254  Date: 2007-05-03 00:40:10
Curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

If you don't like me, hang up. If you are not sure hang up. If you want to,hang on. What a bunch of crap! First of all, WELCOME HOME Johnny! Hope the trip was good. If I think you think bush is an idiot are you un_American. Hell no! I think bush is an idiot and I'm only American.I'll take Clinton and the cigar and blue dress anyday.1247: Kudos to you Travis!! 1248: Sis, if name calling is the worst thing I do or have done, you have a pretty good brother. Now on to 1246: First of all. I AM AMERICAN! not english,therefore I SPEAK AMERICAN!We are beyond the collinial days here. If I want to go to college in "AMERICA", then why do I need a foreign language? " Je ne sais pas" YOU ADAPT!! Because of opportunity John writes. Well, not everyone needs opportunity. Some people are happy in AMERICA speaking AMERICAN and cutting thier own grass and picking thier own crops and speaking AMERICAN to each other at the grocery store. Not a big deal in my small town small mind. I'm proud to be AMERICAN. OH yeah, I forgot. My ancestors came here from somewhere. True enough. So I should still have to deal with slavery too? Ancestors brought them here too. I give up I think. WE should learn a foreign language to help the illegals get by easier and pay more in health care so the illegals get by easier and we should not take the farm jobs and construction jobs so the illegals can get by easier
and pay more for school for the kids so illegals can get by easier. I still like that letter to Sen Harkin about becoming an alien so I can have all that. Great you all have opinions and I likewise have mine. Keep me in AMERdoing AMERICAN things speaking AMERICAN and I'm good to go. You all have a great night.

1253  Date: 2007-05-02 16:49:39
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy...
You stated your husbands grandfather lost his job due to mexicans taking his job....think about this for a moment.....Your husbands grandfather lost his job because his employeer decided to hire Ilegal aliens....They are not to blame, the employer is....food for thought...

1252  Date: 2007-05-02 14:36:02
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis,
Live in America be american? Live in France be French? Why not live in France and be American?...Be proud of where you come from and who you are regardless of your location.
Hell when I went to Indoesia, I even took another home town on...I was Canadian (some Muslims tend to like you more)...LOL
We are all just people...tis a shame we have to be placed in a box and considered something when we might just not fit the box...Because I think Bush is an idiot am I un-american....just the opposite..I utilize one of the biggest freedoms Americans sometime forget we have...Freedom of choice..and thought...There I have caught up...;)

1251  Date: 2007-05-02 04:31:33
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sircher,
I like your idea about Texas...especially the reasoning...Folks forgot what it was? Look for it ;)

A few things from

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm

And so, what Gen. Petraeus is saying, some early signs, still dangerous, but give me -- give my chance a plan to work." --George W. Bush, in an interview with Charlie Rose, April 24, 2007

"There are jobs Americans aren't doing. ... If you've got a chicken factory, a chicken-plucking factory, or whatever you call them, you know what I'm talking about." --George W. Bush. Tipp City, Ohio, April 19, 2007

"There are some similarities, of course (between Iraq and Vietnam). Death is terrible." --George W. Bush, Tipp City, Ohio, April 19, 2007

"I've been in politics long enough to know that polls just go poof at times." --George W. Bush, Tipp City, Ohio, April 19, 2007

"My job is a job to make decisions. I'm a decision-if the job description were, what do you do -- it's decision maker." --George W. Bush, Tipp City, Ohio, April 19, 2007

"Politics comes and goes, but your principles don't. And everybody wants to be loved -- not everybody. ... You never heard anybody say, 'I want to be despised, I'm running for office.'" --George W. Bush, Tipp City, Ohio, April 19, 2007

"I said to her, make sure the rug says 'optimistic person comes to work.'" --George W. Bush, on his instructions to First Lady Laura Bush in choosing a rug for the Oval Office, Tipp City, Ohio, April 19, 2007

"One of my concerns is that the health care not be as good as it can possibly be." --George W. Bush, on military benefits, Tipp City, Ohio, April 19, 2007

"My attitude is, if they're still writing about (number) one, 43 doesn't need to worry about it." --George W. Bush, on his legacy, Tipp City, Ohio, April 19, 2007

"A good marriage is really good after serving together in Washington, D.C." --George W. Bush, Tipp City, Ohio, April 19, 2007

"The best thing about my family is my wife. She is a great first lady. I know that sounds not very objective, but that's how I feel. And she's also patient. Putting up with me requires a lot of patience." --George W. Bush, Tipp City, Ohio, April 19, 2007

"Iraq is a very important part of securing the homeland, and it's a very important part of helping change the Middle East into a part of the world that will not serve as a threat to the civilized world, to people like -- or to the developed world, to people like -- in the United States." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2007

"Suiciders are willing to kill innocent life in order to send the projection that this is an impossible mission." --George W. Busy, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2007

"And my concern, David, is several." --George W. Bush, to NBC's David Gregory, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2007

"The solution to Iraq -- an Iraq that can govern itself, sustain itself and defend itself -- is more than a military mission. Precisely the reason why I sent more troops into Baghdad." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2007

"That's why we are inconveniencing air traffickers, to make sure nobody is carrying weapons on airplanes." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2007

"They're innocent, they were doing nothing, and they were summarily plucked out of water." --George W. Bush, on British sailors who were detained by Iran while on patrol in the Persian Gulf, Camp David, March 31, 2007

"Some call this civil war; others call it emergency -- I call it pure evil." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 28, 2007

"I'm a strong proponent of the restoration of the wetlands, for a lot of reasons. There's a practical reason, though, when it comes to hurricanes: The stronger the wetlands, the more likely the damage of the hurricane." --George W. Bush, New Orleans, March 1, 2007

"And there is distrust in Washington. I am surprised, frankly, at the amount of distrust that exists in this town. And I'm sorry it's the case, and I'll work hard to try to elevate it." --George W. Bush, interview on National Public Radio, Jan. 29, 2007

"I think that the vice president is a person reflecting a half-glass-full mentality." --George W. Bush, interview on National Public Radio, Jan. 29, 2007

"And one thing we want during this war on terror is for people to feel like their life's moving on, that they're able to make a living and send their kids to college and put more money on the table." --George W. Bush, interview on the NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, Jan. 16, 2007

"The best way to defeat the totalitarian of hate is with an ideology of hope -- an ideology of hate -- excuse me --with an ideology of hope." --George W. Bush, Fort Benning, Ga., Jan. 11, 2007

"Make no mistake about it, I understand how tough it is, sir. I talk to families who die." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 7, 2006 (Watch video clip)

"It's bad in Iraq. Does that help?" --George W. Bush, after being asked by a reporter whether he's in denial about Iraq, Washington, D.C., Dec. 7, 2006

"And truth of the matter is, a lot of reports in Washington are never read by anybody. To show you how important this one is, I read it, and our guest read it." --George W. Bush, on the Baker-Hamilton Report, appearing with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Washington, D.C., Dec. 7, 2006

"This business about graceful exit just simply has no realism to it at all." --George W. Bush, on speculation that U.S. troops could be withdrawn from Iraq, Amman, Jordan, Nov. 30, 2006

"The only way we can win is to leave before the job is done." --George W. Bush, Greeley, Colo., Nov. 4, 2006 (Watch video clip)

"Anybody who is in a position to serve this country ought to understand the consequences of words." --George W. Bush, interview with Rush Limbaugh, Nov. 1, 2006

"You know, when I campaigned here in 2000, I said, I want to be a war President. No President wants to be a war President, but I am one." --George W. Bush, Des Moines, Iowa, Oct. 26, 2006

Maria Bartiromo: "I'm curious, have you ever googled anybody? Do you use Google?"
President Bush: "Occasionally. One of the things I've used on the Google is to pull up maps. It's very interesting to see -- I've forgot the name of the program -- but you get the satellite, and you can -- like, I kinda like to look at the ranch. It remind me of where I wanna be sometimes." --interview with CNBC's Maria Bartiromo, Oct. 24, 2006 (Watch video clip)

"We're never been stay the course, George." --George W. Bush, attempting to distance himself from what has been his core strategy in Iraq for the last three years, interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, Oct. 22, 2006

"This morning my administration released the budget numbers for fiscal 2006. These budget numbers are not just estimates; these are the actual results for the fiscal year that ended February the 30th." --George W. Bush, on the fiscal year that ended on Sept. 30, Washington, D.C., Oct. 11, 2006 (Watch video clip)

"One has a stronger hand when there's more people playing your same cards." --George W. Bush, on holding six-party talks with North Korea, Washington, D.C., Oct. 11, 2006

1250  Date: 2007-05-02 04:18:17
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Passing thought for Travis...
Hmmm hate destroying countries only to rebuild and starve our citizens...
How do we eliminate this without making more enemys than we currently have..I see two choices:
Chemical Warfare might save a bit of money...no rebuild costs, less mouths to feed, no renumerations....or...one more drastic thought
Have no War.
Bush...go figure, on American Idol.....his wife was right...he has no need to sing, we have already seen him dance..

1249  Date: 2007-05-02 02:12:23
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Wow,
Goodness what a interesting bit of comments...I will come out of no where and state that in my opinon children should be REQUIRED to learn more than one language fluently...This is America and we are a melting pot. Making this a requirement will simply open doors for our kids as they grow older.
Do I believe English will ever be our second language...cut me a break, we live in America. English will more than likely always be our main language, but shutting of the idea that we need to learn others is simply not looking at the big picture.
Forgive me for any errors in this particular post as I have not been asleep for a couple of days, "just got home"..however, I find it now neccessary to state that in my travels all over the world, developing countries always have natives who speak a bit of English, and many of them speak better or more proper English than Americans do. Why do they do this...simple, opportunity. Why should we...same damn reason..opportunity. Now, should I be paid more for knowing another language..YES I SHOULD..why? Because I got off my butt and decided to learn a another language...This is the same reason people with College degrees tend to earn more money...Although they are not always the smartest people in the world, they got off thier butts and learned what they needed to learn..Hoops folks, jumping through hoops...a bad thing, I think not, we Americans tend to be lazy anyway..(If that offends, then I am probably directing this to you..if not get over it).
On the subject of the Shooting...well folks, warning signs were there..people knew the guy was screwed in the head and did nothing. Bureaucracy at work here..(wonder if I spelled that right)...Nobody could do anything about it with the information they had, yet very few people took steps to "make it happen"...Could they predict it would happen, I would say they had a pretty good shot at it but failed...Then of course you have the time it took to notify students of what was going on..why? Slow thinking...It takes two seconds to send an email...good god..it is disgusting..
Subject of Small towns, small minds...I do not think this is always true, however I do have to state folks that stay in smaller areas, probably are introduced to fewer things..does this make them raceist? Not neccessarily, however it does not expose them to anything other than a televison set, and of course the rules they were brought up around..Does this mean they will live by these rules..some...but not all.
As to the question posed by Travis...why should we adapt...well big guy, again for opportunity. If you do not want the opportunity do not adapt,,,but remember we do live in American and are a melting pot. Therefore if you refuse to adapt..(or at least tolerate)...it is my conclusion that one is un american...LOL.....
Curtis, why is Spanish requred...it is not however a language is..why? Same reason Algebra is required to graduate...not that you will use it, but that you have the ability to focus, concentrate and learn
Cathy as far as Bush is concerned, you are correct he is not the only one running the county howeve he does have the reigns right now, and based on evidence supplyed, he should be shot for attrocities committed on the soldiers he has sent to war..
Back to Travis...Indeed the inmates live better than many..is it right..I do not thinks so, however I will toss something out, just for the heck of tossing it..Many people believe that our prison population is getting bigger because of the repeat offenders and of course that wonderful three times your out business...Another reason is because we do not have the programing neccessary to cause those that commit crims to stop doing it for a living..In many situations, these folks learn only how to committ crimes in a grander scale...Were does this all fall? In my humble opinon right back to a few places...racial discrimation, family, televison...We spend more time ensuring our kids know the rules and regulations of a sports than we do teaching them what they need to survive...Sure it keeps them off the streets, but is this the most important thing..
I was in a small town in Arizona "Coolidge" and I heard the city discussing allocating funds for new books in schools...One of the wonderful towns people stood up and said, and I quote. "What the hell do we need new books for? Its not like the "writin" has worn out..but our football uniforms are more worn them them"....I moved...
Travis as far as the question concerning "how do we stop it"...Well for starters, realize that we are a powerful nation and of course other countries learn English so they can get our business...turn it around...start learning other languages so we can be the ones making the first move...Good god, look on the net for the Salaries of those that speak Japanese.....it will blow your mind. We need to take an active part in learning...or we will someday not be the number one country in the world..
Accept that we have people from other nations living within our boundries...hell put them to work..stealing american jobs? Perhaps some, but lets face it, no one reading this board probaly enjoyes some of the low paying jobs they often have...As far as hiring ilegals...punish the damn people that hire them...not the folks working the jobs...If you cut of the head, it is likely the rest will die..If rules were followed.."Do not hire ilegal aliens" They would not be taking jobs..it is not them taking jobs anyway, it is those that create the jobs giving them...If you were hungry and I offered you some food would you take it? Hell yes you would.
Now, will this increase the crime in the US...my guess is it might..however if these folks are sent back over the border...at the expensive of their own country, there is a likelyhood Mexico would spend some time ensureing folks were not going over the line..If we cannot deal with Mexico getting mad at us...then we need to accept that this is the way things are and will probably forever be.
FMC...FMC...I like that you mentioned there is no language "American"....for those that did not recognize this, I suggest hitting the books and learning English..LOL...
Revrod...of course you are getting upset paying for ilegals...again here is a case where employers should be nailed, countries should be fined for those folks escaping...
This is a tough guideline to set, because frankly if I lived in Mexico, I would go to American to feed my kids...NOW...I might actually apply for citizenshit...but that is of course thing...Perhaps we should look at our rules of citizen ship...No problem with more citizens as long as they are pulling their weight...uh oh...guess what, you are also paying for all the lazy Americans that refuse to get jobs, but prefer that wonderful welfare check shouting the usual "But I can get more on Welfare!"....Everybody got ticked when the welfare was placed on a time table...These folks need to be like a large number of Americans who would rather work at a lower wage until they can get more..than suck us dry from thier inactivity...Ever see the folks using foodstamps driving expensive cars? I have...I would rather pay for a hard working ilegal than a lazy non working citizen.
Revrod...Hospitals would increase their price no matter what...do not kid yourself..however dealing with ilegals gives them a good exuse...I mean come on, I was in an accident and it took over 1 million dollars for me to be saved...cut me a break..I hope you do not have to go to a hospital in the near future...but if you do, have them itemize your bill..You will see no reason in the world to charge 500 dollars for two asprin...not even the ilegals..
Curtis, in Rome do as the romans do? Cut me a break they spoke Latin and then it died out..Maybe doing as romans do is a bad thing.
Acting Jock...wow.."Europeans are cheap (don't tip), Cubans are inconsiderate, Mexicans won't learn the language, New Yorkers are like the Cubans, Northeasterns are overally opinionated and rude." Seems like you have formed some interesting opinions...Interesing enough, Europeans thing we are Rude. Asians believe we are Lazy..New Yorkers figure those from the Midwest and West are weak, and lets face it, many people think that if you are south of the Mason Dixon line you are an idiot...I suppose there is some preconcieved notions everywhere...Later...I am sleepy...

1248  Date: 2007-05-01 05:41:30
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis, I think we should say "American" and "Mexican" when talking about languages here, too. We don't speak true "English" and they definitely don't speak true "Spanish." But, I disagree with you about name-calling. Mama didn't raise us to name-call!!
Travis, I know what you mean! I worked in the broom factory in Arcola for a while in 1994. I think I was one of a handful of people who spoke "American" or "English" (!) in the entire place! And regarding our freedoms slipping away, you are right. Unfortunately, I can only see it getting worse. The government, in my opinion, wants to be seen as the good guys to every other country but this one. You will never hear me bash my President. However, he is not truly the one running this country. He can't take a crap without 12 advisors telling him to do so. That's just the way it's set up. When I say "our government" I don't mean Bush. (Just so we're clear!) As long as the government tries to take care of everyone else before they take care of their own, we will suffer. Illegals can get health care, driving privileges, etc. My husband works endless hours and pays out the nose for me and our children to have health care. Many illegals don't work and get better health care than I could ever afford. If they do work, our unemployment rates rise because they take jobs away from Americans. Some people say they do the jobs that we think we are too good to do. That's not altogether true. My husband's grandfather was laid off of the peach farm he had worked at for years (years ago) because Cesar Chavez made sure the Mexicans got in and took his job away. In California, things haven't changed much in regards to who works the fields. Now, my school is out one day a year to celebrate Chavez, but we had class on President's Day. Figure that one out! I probably sound prejudice/racist/whateverist against Mexicans, but they seem to be at the forefront of the injustices done to us here in California. I am only against illegals who take jobs and, like AJ said, make me pay more for my health care so that they can have it for free. I have nothing against the ones that come here and become citizens and pay their own way. Some of my good friends are Mexican. They are good, honest, hard-working people.

1247  Date: 2007-05-01 02:31:36
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

For one to live in lil ole Sullivan one does not need to speak spanish....However go about 15 miles north east to Arcola then you do need to speak spanish....lol..Maybe i am wrong here but i feel that English is slowly becoming a second language in part to the illegal immegrants flowing over our borders for such a long time.However i feel our government is partially to blame for that cause they could have prevented the illegals from crossing over by not allowing American corporations crossing over into Mexico and so on....I might be looking at this with a close mind but by the government allowing corporations to leave our country that is a invitation to the illegals to come here..Just a thought...
"ADAPT" Why should americans have to adapt to a non americans way of life,religion,and language?God put me and my family in america(not mexico or cuba...he put Rodrigez in his country NOT america..So with that i say "STAY IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY AND STOP DRAINING OUR ECONOMY"
ACTING JOCK:1245...You talk of prisoners and how a large percentage are of foreign decent.That doesn't surprise me..I mean heck they (prisoners) live better then the single mom or dad working 1 or 2 jobs to support there family's..Thats pathetic how caged killers and pediphiles live better then the people who are doing the next right thing..It cranks my gears also when we destroy a country THEN go and give that same country money to rebuild..HELLO!!!!!!!THE U.S.A HAS KIDS STARVING TO DEATH AND FAMILIES IN NEED OF HOUSING and EDUCATION...I'm sorry but our freedoms are slipping away on a daily basis and not by choice..But how do we stop it and who will stop it??Will it ever stop??

1246  Date: 2007-04-30 20:53:23
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis: "1233, FAC: Why is Spanish required? Or why I should learn another language other than American?"
First, I didn't say Spanish is required. I said that, if you want to get a college degree, A foreign language is required; it can be pretty much ANY language. Why is this is required? Ask an advisor at any college.
Next, you DON'T have to learn a foreign language! If you want to, go ahead. If you don't then don't! I never said you, or anyone else, has to.
Also, as for you saying "I don't live in a foreign country"--well, it IS a foreign country, to those who don't live here!
"Live in America at least try to adapt." I agree; I think everyone living here should do their best to learn English well enough to get along. But why don't you try taking some of your own advice and "adapt" to the fact that the US is changing, and eventually the English-speakers might not be the majority. Like it or not, it will happen.
Last, If your name-calling is directed at me ("Idiot"), you might want to think about that for a second before you call your own native language "American." It's called English.

1245  Date: 2007-04-30 17:43:35
Acting Jock ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

RevRod,
I would have to agree with you in that it's not just the language barrier, it is probably more the job situation. But to add to that it is also the american taxpayer having to pay the health and welfare of the illegals. Down here in Florida everytime you walk into the hospital emergency room, you will see a number of illegals. You know they don't have medical insurance nor the money to pay the bill. So, the hospital adds to their fees to make up for the shortfall. Or my tax money going to feed the 45% of the inmates in the local jail that are illegals. They are getting food and shelter at my expense.
I'm not a racist nor prejudice, but I don't think it is okay for them not to pay taxes and then benefit in some way from my hard earned money.
My wife is a cafeteria manager at a local school, and you would be surprised how many there get free lunch. Who pays for that? We do. I'm not saying the kids are supposed starve, but I''m tired of my tax money paying for the illegals lunch.
As far as the Cubans most of them are legal, but they are very pompass. They will but in front of you in line, or think their time is more valuable than yours. I usually say something depending on how big they are. I guess I like them even less than the true illegals, but I guess it's just their culture.
I guess we get a true melting pot down here. Europeans are cheap (don't tip), Cubans are inconsiderate, Mexicans won't learn the language, New Yorkers are like the Cubans, Northeasterns are overally opinionated and rude. But I'm not prejudiced, just fed up.

1244  Date: 2007-04-28 02:51:44
tator ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Am I to understand that we should speak "Mexican" to get a good paying job? NEGATIVE!!!

1243  Date: 2007-04-28 02:45:46
Curtis ( illinoy13@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:

Okay folks, the e-mail address is posted for all to see. John ha left the building and I think he would want this to continue. Therefore, Post 1233, FAC: Why is Spanish required? Or why I should learn another language other than American?Americans are th laziest people in the world when it comes to foriegn languages? Am I correct in this question? First of all, I don't live in a foriegn country, therefore don't need the foriegn language. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? And post 1234, Welcome aboard Bonnie. Any in-sight is helpful. I am probabably the worst one on here, but I have things to say as well.Post 1235! White is right? Where in the HELL did that come from? I have been on here for a long time and don't remember "white is right" The whole deal is speak it or leave it. No big deal here Einstien. When in Rome do as the Romans. DUH!! Get a grip Idiot. Live in America at least try to adapt. Small mind? You bet.Post 1236! America is America for a reason. If you live in a America, BE AMERICAN!!!!!! If I'm in France, I'll be French. What is so freaking hard with this concept????Later from the tator

1242  Date: 2007-04-27 18:14:21
Revrod ( Revrod_65@hotmail.com / no homepage) wrote:

Wow! I am gone for a few days and I see a little tension in the guestbook! I don't think it hurts at all for everyone to have a way to communicate with others. In St Louis, I come into contact with Bosnians, Hispanics, Arabic...you get the idea. While I don't think that we should all become fluent in Spanish or Arabic or Bosnian, what does it hurt to learn a few sentences just to communicate with others? I am of the opinion that most of the prejudices stems from the illegals "taking jobs" from American workers. But as we are all aware, most of the products sold nowadays are made outside of the US. We have become a melting pot...whether we like it or not. I am also inclined to agree with FMC that while not everyone in Sullivan or in Moultrie County is prejudiced; there are many long-time residents (2nd generation and beyond) that do hold old prejudices -- but again, NOT EVERYONE. While I left Sullivan 20 years ago to "get out of the backwards town" -- if the opportunity arose in the future, I would move back in a heartbeat.

1241  Date: 2007-04-27 01:26:23
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

True, we don't have an official language. Got me on that one! No offense taken here. Makes for good postings when people get riled up once in a while. While I don't agree with everyone on here, we do good to voice our opinions and have people comment so that everyone might get a little more enlightened about ways of thinking that might be foreign to us (no pun intended).

1240  Date: 2007-04-26 18:21:19
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

To "a poster":
Nothing I said was directed at you, because I have never seen "a poster" write anything here before! Many of my comments were sparked by what others have posted here. I'm not simply pulling out of thin air that some posters on this site say horrible things about the Mexican/Hispanic population (aka--racist). And I'm also not pulling out of thin air the 20+ years of conversations I've had with hundreds of people who live in Moultrie County. I never said EVERYONE is that way; but from my experience, I definitely believe the majority think along the same lines. If you're not one of them, fine, great--it doesn't apply to you.

Why do I use percious moments of my life on this board? A few reasons. One--it reminds me why I left. Two--I still have lots of family there, so I am interested in what's going on. Three--I have plenty of extra minutes to use as I sit here at work with computer access only to newspapers and tv news sites.

Bonnie--My comment about not getting a job that requires Spanish wasn't specifc to anyone. I hear that all the time, and it's getting old. There are numerous jobs out there that don't require Spanish. However, the volume of those jobs greatly depends on where one lives in this country.
I agree that you/we should not have to be bilingual. But again, the country is changing rapidly, and if we do learn Spanish it's only going to give us more opportunities.
P.S. As much as I wish I owned one, I don't have a horse to get off of.

Cathy--True, Spanish isn't our official language. But neither is English. We don't have an official language.

Sorry to have offended. Perhaps someday someone here will say something that will surprise me, therefore causing me to reconsider my way of thinking. We shall see...

1239  Date: 2007-04-25 13:28:02
a poster ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

A sentence clarification.

"We are posters on a public message board" should have continued to say "and many of us are unknown to you and you really do not know who we are, or what are experiences have been".

1238  Date: 2007-04-25 13:24:08
a poster ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

To FMC:

I also was offended that you think that just because we were born and/or live(d) in Sullivan, that we are automatically small minded. We are posters on a public message board. I personally feel your thinking is more in the vein of being small minded to categorize all of us in such a way.
If you are so negetive about Sullivan and the people who live there, then why do you continue to use precious moments of your life on this board?

1237  Date: 2007-04-25 05:31:35
Bonnie ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Since Cathy made the comment about not getting a job because she is not bilingual, I assume the last sentence in 1235 is directed at her. I do not think that she was whining, she was just stating the facts. No one said White is right or that people coming here legally is a bad thing. You should get off your high horse. I didn't even grow up in this town. I was born and raised in a town with millions of people. I have gone to school with non-English speaking people. I have lived next door to people from countries I will probably never visit. I have been immersed in cultures that have fascinated and frightened me. For you to judge me as a small minded person with no exposure to diversity is offensive. I have lived in other countries and learned enough of the languages to do business with locals. When I couldn't, I got an interpreter. I would not expect them to cater to me as the foreigners of whom I spoke in a previous post expect me to do for them in my country. As far as voicing your opinions and criticism, you should take your own advice and find some CONSTRUCTIVE way to do it.

1236  Date: 2007-04-24 17:42:07
Acting Jock ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Just to let you know, Florida is just as bad as California with the whole spanish thing. My daughter attends a high school that probably 45% are spanish and 50% of those don't even speak english. And our congress wonders why Florida education rate 46 out of 50 in the nation. The spanish speaking students slow the rest of the class down.
My daughter had one teacher that said she was just going to speak in spanish only during class. That didn't go over too well. I had to attend the school board meeting to speak out about it. Then I told the board that next time I have to take my time out to attend a board meeting because of something like this, they will receive a bill for my time. That didn't go over real well either.
Before I move to a foreign country I'll have at least the basics down. That way I can communicate with the natives. Most of the kids I spoke of above have lived in the US their whole lives, and still speak broken or hardly at all english.
Don't even get me started on Miami. It is really bad over there.
It is not Mexicans as much as Cubans there though. It is ridiculous. I only go there when it is absolutley necessary. Maybe twice a year.

1235  Date: 2007-04-24 15:57:12
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

It does not surprise me in the least that people who post on this message board feel so strongly that White is Right, kick out everyone we don't like, etc. I grew up there; I know that there is no diversity whatsoever. I have just chosen to grow and understand from hearing people's personal stories and first-hand experiences. Working with children, I've heard many true accounts of why people left Mexico in a hurry, before they had time to perfect their English.
I certainly feel that people should learn English if they come here. I know many families who are doing their best to learn it; but I know that, the older one is when starting to learn a foreign language, the more difficult it is. The people I know are here legally, but some have been here less than a year, so their English isn't perfect yet. They are working hard and studying hard every day because they want to learn the language. People--wake up! Our country is changing! No one said, when they formed the US, that it was going to stay a white majority forever. I don't agree with illegal immigration. But there are still lots of people coming to live here legally, and we need to accept it and live with it because it's not going away. If you don't want to learn Spanish to get a job, then don't! Try to stop whining about what you don't like and think of more constructive ways of dealing with it.

1234  Date: 2007-04-24 05:18:47
Bonnie ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Actually, I have to disagree with FMC. I don't think it should matter what part of the country I move to. I shouldn't be expected to learn another language. If I go to their country, I don't expect them to speak English. I should be expected to learn their language if I want to do business or get a job if I move to their country. Why don't they have to do the same when they come to this country? Why am I still the one who has to learn their language? I am bilingual, just not in Spanish. So, do I have to limit my choice of where I live to only those areas that speak the same languages I do? I don't think so. And some of us don't get to choose where we live. We go where the boss sends us. Some of us don't have the freedom to turn down the order. We go where we are sent. This is America, not Mexican America. Until it is, I shouldn't have to be bilingual to communicate with them. If they don't want to learn our language, they shouldn't come to our country.

1233  Date: 2007-04-23 16:33:22
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

"Also like many schools i am sure spanish is now a required class in high school..How long till english will be required?"

When I grew up in IL, foreign language was not a requirement in high school. If you wanted to go to college, you took a foreign language because it IS required in college (it was/is not restricted to Spanish--it could/can be ANY foreign language). English is required, of course. But remember--you only have to pass with a C, or sometimes a D. The passing grades are different if you're referring to solely passing high school or if you want the credits to count in college.
What is so wrong with learning a language? Americans are the laziest people in the developed world when it comes to this. Look at Europe; because the countries are so close together, most of them know a number of different languages. The more languages a person knows, the more advantages and opportunities one has.
I understand that it doesn't seem fair to require Spanish to get a job in this country. But all of us obviously chose to move to parts of the country where the Spanish-speakers are prominent (I am in Colorado, and there is a huge Mexican population here) rather than staying in central IL, where you definitely don't need to know Spanish. In larger areas, there is more competition and those who have the knowledge will get the jobs. So we knew what we were getting into when we moved to these other states.

1232  Date: 2007-04-23 06:36:33
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Yeah, out here in California you have to speak Spanish to get any kind of job. "Bilingual a must" Last time I checked this was still America and Spanish was not our official language! Tell that to Ahnold.

1231  Date: 2007-04-22 20:19:43
Travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I most definately agree with curtis...Don't make more laws enforce the ones we have now.People put so much blame on the guns well in my opinion guns don't kill people...people kill people.I still think and i stand by this..If someone (security gaurd)or anyone with desency ( i know it's spelled mosscorectly) had a gun when this tragedy happened alot of lives could have been saved.
Also i am totally against Rosie O'Donnell she is a large loud mouth anti who absoulutely has no purpose.Like i said these are my opinions and opinions are like a$$holes...We all got one..

Also like many schools i am sure spanish is now a required class in high school..How long till english will be required?We as americans are in sad sad times.Who will take a stand and when??

1230  Date: 2007-04-21 02:32:59
curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I have a couple comments, but wait, I have to P. Can I write that? 1226,AJ, east of the eye of the hurricane is generally where the damage comes from. Still want to be there though. Watching people board up windows and I doing it myself at my job, I thought it was awesome. 1227,AJ, you talk about gun control! Will never happen and you all are right, if we legislate gun control, there will be an enormous amount of criminals out there. Bag of coke will get you a gun with no background check in any major city. Probably Sullivan too for that matter. At least Mattoon, or Decatur! I'm against any new laws passed for the sake of passing laws. ENFORCE the existing ones before implementing new ones. But then again, Congress has to do something to support the thousands they get in payroll and the "BENE'S" for the committees they are on . Anyone seen the moviw "RED DAWN"? Are we getting close to that yet? Out west, the language is different. Not so much in Cardinal Sux town. Had to get that in! A.J., Family is important and thank you. Tony is still a big part of my past and upbringing. Is your mom still doing hair? Where is she now? Later from the tater!!!!!

1229  Date: 2007-04-21 00:08:03
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well @***# there is a baseball game on the channel I usually watch at this time of the day. As you all know I am not a sports fan. So I will see what I can post in answer to all of you. As for the relative with hypoglycemia you might warn him that sometimes that can be a precursor to diabetes. My son is back in the hospital again and of course it all stems from his diabetes. And it also makes it hard for any treatment. That diabetes is mean stuff.
AJ- My sister lives in florida and they got hit by hurrican charlie a couple of years ago. Just tore the roof off and the fence around the pool. It looks like fun to be in the ocean with all that wind whipping around but if it tears up your property it gets a little less funny huh? Now in California we just have earthquakes. Just little ones. I heard a noise the other day and I thought my cats in the other room was tearing up old jack and then the house started to shake and I realized we were having an earthquake. We hadn't had one for a long time so it took me a few seconds to realize what was going on.
Cathy, I don't hate guns. I didn't really grow up with them but I got married at 18 and my husband was a hunter so we all got very familiar with guns. I even got a winchester centenial rifle for my anniversay one year. LOL A little joke from my husband. So anyway when he died I inheirited all his guns and "my" gun. I'm with the guys on the gun control. I think all the criminals would love to see gun control. They will all manage to have guns even if they have to make them.

1228  Date: 2007-04-20 15:01:29
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I hate guns, but if it comes down to watching someone hurt my family or blowing their head off, guess what I'll choose. If there is a ban on citizens having guns in the home, I'll break the law. Pretty simple, really. I'll pay the price for keeping my family safe.

1227  Date: 2007-04-20 12:49:23
Acting Jock ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Oh,
RevRod,
I think it was a tragedy.
The big talk down here is gun control. What most people don't realize is there is no such thing. If you implement gun control, only criminals will have guns. Think about how bold most criminals are now. And if they take law abiding citizens guns away, how much more bold will the criminals be?
If VT allowed guns on campus the body count might not have been as big. But that is just speculation. There are valid points and invalid points to that issue.
If this kid was as sick as they claim, he wold have found another way to make the impact he made.
This so called gun control the Rosie O'Donnells speak of will create more terrorists, and not just muslim but american born psycho's right from middle america.

1226  Date: 2007-04-20 12:42:30
Acting Jock ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cutris,
I guess he is ok. He said it wasn't a big deal. From what I understand he is on the go all of the time and at that point wasn't eating or something so his blood sugar got low.
As far as family you and Cath are still my family even though we are no longer related by marriage. You guys were always good to me so I still look at you as family. Once you are a part of my family you are always family no matter if what linked us was dissolved.
I put family ahead of all else. It's the most important thing there is.
When I lived in Sullivan I took it for granted, but now that I am away from most of my family, and having just went back to Sullivan, I cherish them.
Yes hurricane season will be upon us soon. I don't look forward to it as most do. With insurance rates being elevated if a hurricane hits, I shutter to think if I get hit. I lucked out during Wilma. I had two houses at the time and neither one got any damage that I couldn't fix myself. But my nerves can't take another direct hit.
I know what you are talking about though with the hurricane parties and such. That's pretty fun. But when you own the house in the center of the eye it gets a little nerve racking.

1225  Date: 2007-04-20 01:01:13
Curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

AJ, first of all we are family, therefore, NO we did not hear. How terrible is that? WE are not a close family at all. At least with my experiences. Then again, I'm not the brightest bulb in the box and have actually been characterized as burnt out, but is Cory alright now? 3 hours from home and no clue. Don't that just beat all? (hear the deliverance music in the background as I type) Sircher, I agree 100%. Give them Texas and send the prez back on vacation or on impeachment or something. AND take away the benefits,pay inheritance etc and see if they still do only what WE don't want to do. I would go see that.And RevRod, The VT news has gotten us off Imus In the Morning crap didn't it? Not to make light of the situation at all, but "nappy headed ho's" does not use the "n" word, nor does it imply a thing. The one whom hears it, implys his or her own thoughts. Hell, Jackson and Sharpten are the two biggest racist we have in our society. Well, maybe the two biggest.I am surprised with the activity here with John gone. You all are doing an awesome job. Keep it up! PLEASE!! Hurricane season is right around the corner and Acting Jock, I envy you being there for that and I am not. What a time to live in Florida. I aleays loved hurricane season. First one thier, my sis let her kids go rollerblading in our cul-de-sac with the wind blowing them and it was awesome. No danger at that point, as we monitored each and every 30 minutes, but none the less, it was hilarious. I think they might agree. I envy you. Wish I were back in the panhandle. Anyway, great job posters. Until the next time, GO D'BAX!!!!

1224  Date: 2007-04-19 23:50:05
Acting Jock ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Great point Cuz!
To go along with that the Eagles put out a song on the Hell Freezes Over called "Get Over It". Take a look at the lyrics to that. It talks about placing blame, which I think goes hand in hand with what you said about society and the media.
On another note:
Did you hear what happened to Cory? I guess he became hypoglycemic while driving to his girlfriends house. He stopped at a hospital or doctors office and got treated. Tony said Cory didn't think it was a big deal.
After what I have been through with my oldests Sugar Diabetes, I can tell you he needs to start monitoring it.

1223  Date: 2007-04-19 18:05:53
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I posted a big comment on here, but it's gone. So, I am going to try to remember what I said and say it again!!

I agree with your RevRod, however do you remember the 80's song "Dirty Laundry" - that describes our society to the letter! We (meaning "our society", not necessarily you/me)want the dirt. We want the blitz. We want to see videos of the killer angrily voicing his viewpoints. The front page of the Modesto Bee has a huge picture of the killer with two guns. We have no problem elevating him to celebrity status..dead or alive. We want to chase down the grieving parents of some poor 19 year old girl who was in the wrong place at the wrong time and ask them how horrible they are feeling. We KNOW how horrible it was. We can only imagine how horrible they are feeling. We want to see their tears and hear about what a good girl she was so that we can be even angrier. God forbid this tragedy happen to one of us. But if it did, would we really want stalkers with cameras and microphones asking us how we feel? What if one of the journalist's children were a victim - would they invite us into their home to tell their "story"?? What disturbs me the most is that WE are the ones dictating what they do. WE buy the tabloids. WE tune in to see the devastation, not to hear the news. WE are hungry for it and need to be fed. The media give us what we want. If all stations but one chose to respect the privacy of the families, where would we tune our TV's? Yep, the ONE who showed the blitz. It's sick, twisted, and disgusting. But in my opinion, we are to blame more than the media. Simple supply and demand.

1222  Date: 2007-04-19 17:49:59
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sircher - thanks! My kids made it to NYC safely. They went with their high school choir. They get to go to a couple of Broadway shows, to the statue of liberty, etc etc. I've never been so I hope they take lots of pictures and enjoy it to the fullest! I can't imagine what it was like for you to see your son in a coma. My heart goes out to you for that. Sounds like you have had it rough. You must be one incredibly strong woman!

1221  Date: 2007-04-19 16:28:44
Revrod65 ( revrod_65@hotmail.com / no homepage) wrote:

Just curious if anyone else is as disgusted as I am with the media blitz at the VT campus. Don't get me wrong: my heart goes out to the families and friends of those who were killed. BUT, I absolutely hate the in-your-face blitz while people are trying to grieve. I remember this stuff after OKC 12 years ago and with 9/11. I guess it is our "tabloid" culture...what do you think?

1220  Date: 2007-04-19 15:26:40
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy, I guess the guestbook will be kind of slow till John gets back from his vacation. He does tend to keep things going here. Hope your kids got to NYC safely. I have never been to New York, city or otherwise. I have visited almost all other states except the northeastern states. I missed my chance for Hawaii when my son got married there but for me it was too soon after my husbands death. But then last summer I got to Alaska when that son was in a coma for 2 weeks.
Curtis--here is my idea about a solution for the illegals. We give Texas back to Mexico and move them all there. We could do without all those polititions we have been getting out of Texas.

1219  Date: 2007-04-18 05:28:13
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Just checking to see if there were any interesting posts. My kids just got on a plane to fly to NYC and I'm up with nothing to do but worry! Oh well.

1218  Date: 2007-04-14 00:30:46
Curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy, as of this writing, D'Bax are 7-3, Cards are 5-3. You are more than welcome to warm up to them and be a fan. Hell, I have a hat I can send you too! John, just getting old buddy. Have you had someone on your bumper and you stop completely or drive the speed limit to piss them off? I enjoy that quite frankly. If it does't piss them off then I use sign language we all understand. I enjoy that too. Illegals are illegal. Shoot the Bas#*@d's. Bullets are cheaper. Better yet, put them all in the same prison and nuke it! Just a thought. Later

1217  Date: 2007-04-13 18:40:41
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Does anyone know where I can buy Calcidines? They are a cure-all and I haven't had them since I was a kid. They're black and taste really gross, but they work for all kinds of ailments. I can't even find them online.

1216  Date: 2007-04-13 00:05:58
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I still say that the Mexicans should use the money that they are paying for someone to get them across the border and put it back into their communities. Then they wouldn't be so destitute and desperate to come here. The thousands of dollars that are getting them over here could keep them there. John, have fun on your excursion. Curtis, Cardinals do not suck. Cubs suck. Get it right. Diamondbacks are not worth commenting on.

1215  Date: 2007-04-12 17:28:22
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Acting Jock, I believe our govenor has approached Mexico with pehaps recieved a bit of cash for dealing with the nationals, but to no avail. Another thought that was once spoke of, was opening a prison in Mexico...I once conducted a study of our department and found the Mexican Nationals are less than ten percent of our population...however also found that they were involved in over 30 percent of the incidents reported...This report was sent higher up and outside the agency, now of course we have a steady flow of ICE..folks helping to get these guys and gals out of the Us...As for the local and county jails, I cannot speak for them because I am not sure of their numbers.
The bar thing you mention, I mentioned..funny thing about the entire situation is it is either the same person sitting on that bar stool...or look very closely..could be an offspring. I happend to find that part of my visit a bit depressing.

Curtis:..oh my god..its ilegal, I never knew you were such a law abiding person, you must be getting old...or parinoid. ;)
As far as MSN...frankly they are all like that, news folks tend to deliver what is desired, slanted at whatever rate their political idealism leans...The only time I have ever actually heard news that seemed pretty straight up was the BBC...but then again, I am sure they were protecting their own interests.

Tommorro at 4am I take off for a diving excursion in the Phillipines, I will be in the air for a total of 24 hours...weeee...but not comming back until the first of the month....I need it this time.

1214  Date: 2007-04-12 15:28:35
Acting Jock ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hey guys,
Haven't been here in awhile. I was just back in Sullivan last weekend. It's still there. Same people sitting on the same barstools talking about the same things. Although when I went to the IGA a couple of time I only saw two or three people I recognized.
My daughter asked me where the movie theatre and the mall was. I said the theatre was the video store and the mall was the IGA/CVS.
I don't get it, she still wants to move up there.
As for the illegal alien mess. I'm sure you John, are like us in Florida overrun with them. I read something in my paper the other day. It stated that 47% of the local jail population was illegal aliens. Glad to see my tax dollars are going to support the Mexican population.
I wonder if we could get reperations from Mexico? I mean Rev. Al and Jesse Jackson wanted slave reprations. The funny thing on that issue was black people were mostly selling black people.
I'm not holding my breathe on the whole Mexico reperations thing. But something needs to be done. Before you know it you'll see them driving down the road in government owned vehicles working for the local governments and the state.
In closing, I'm glad to be back where it is warm.

1213  Date: 2007-04-12 01:05:09
curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

glad to hear things are good. Thanks for posting Sircher. ENFORCE them all. Trouble is, what are all of them? Meaning they pass new ones every day that we dont know about. Good letter Sis. I TOO want to become an illegal alien. However, to me, ILLEGAL still means you are breaking the law. I am no angel, but I still try not to break the law. YES, I do come to a complete stop at stop signs. Just for the sake of pissing people off, but I do. I will not watch MSNBC anymore either. Too much political correctness for me. And you all know I am not politically correct much. But who cares? Certainly not me. Cardinals suck, GO DIAMONDBACKS!!!!

1212  Date: 2007-04-11 20:23:34
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sircher,
Indeed I did, he is still in there. I posted a newpaper article just after you posted the comment. It is well known around here. One thing that I am not sure was mentioned is he contacted the desease in Russia. He returned to the US after volunteering to go into a residential quarenteen facility...The problem is, he also promised to where a mask, since this particular strain of TB is deadly and uncurable. Well, he refused to wear the mask, and claims he misunderstood because while in Russia he was not made to wear one.
He was essentially placed there to keep everyone else from getting sick. However, I am not sure the removal of TV sets, etc is neccessay, I do believe the locked door is. The fact is, the guy wants out, and by not wearing a mask, he could force the country to accept a sickness that cannot be dealt with...just my opinion though. ;)
Cathy, interesting letter, but got to day, (only because it is not said often)..If you were living in Mexico...wouldn't you try to get the heck out. I would be hopping fences and swimming rivers in a heart beat, the country sucks (in my opinion)...and it is not the type of country where citizens can merely demand things change..to much yucky stuff going on. ;)

1211  Date: 2007-04-11 10:17:25
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I got this in an email. I think this guy from Iowa has the right idea!! Here is a letter he wrote to his senator regarding citizenship:

Dear Senator Harkin,
As a native Iowan and excellent customer of the Internal Revenue Service, I am writing to ask for your assistance. I have contacted the Department of Homeland Security in an effort to determine the process for becoming an illegal alien and they referred me to you. My primary reason for wishing to change my status from U.S. Citizen to illegal alien stems from the bill which was recently passed by the. Senate and for which you voted. If my understanding of this bill's provisions is accurate, as an illegal alien who has been in the United States for five years, all I need to do to become a citizen is to pay a $2,000 fine and income taxes for three of the last five years. I know a good deal when I see one and I am anxious to get the process started before everyone figures it out. Simply put, those of us who have been here legally have had to pay taxes every year so I'm excited about the prospect of avoiding two years of taxes in return for paying a $2,000 fine. Is there any way that I can apply to be illegal retroactively? This would yield an excellent result for me and my family because we paid heavy taxes in2004 and 2005. Additionally, as an illegal alien I could begin using the local emergency room as my primary health care provider. Once I have stopped paying premiums for medical insurance, my accountant figures I could save almost $10,000 a year. Another benefit in gaining illegal status would be that my daughter would receive preferential treatment relative to her law school
applications, as well as "in-state" tuition rates for many colleges throughout the United States for my son. Lastly, I understand that illegal status would relieve me of the burden of renewing my driver's license and making those burdensome car. insurance premiums. This is very important to me given that I still have college age children driving my car.
If you would provide me with an outline of the process to become illegal (retroactively if possible) and copies of the necessary forms, I would be most appreciative. Thank you for your assistance.
Your Loyal Constituent,
Donald Ruppert
Burlington, IA

1210  Date: 2007-04-11 03:48:18
Sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis, things are great in California. Nice and warm as usual which is why I don't move back to Sullivan. Can't stand the cold and that white stuff. And one of the worse things is that bitter cold wind. Cuts through you like a knife. I wondered what happened to you since you didn't post for a long time.I do care about immigration but I don't think anything is going to be done about it. Its against the present law for employers to hire illegals so they need to be caught and fined and maybe they would quit hiring them and if no one would hire them they would have no reason to come here. As usual we don't need more laws on the books, we just need to enforce the ones already there.
John, did you see where the guy in Phoenix jail with dangerous type TB, that I asked you about a few weeks ago finally got into mainstream news?

1209  Date: 2007-04-10 01:26:06
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis, I never mind fessing up, because I normally do not have to..;)...I do not care about immigration, I am in the middle of it all, and frankly someday I might want to be an immigrant someplace, so it is best to remain neutral on the subject (Keep Karma clean) .I would not bother with the tattoo place in Sullivan, even with the porn..methinks the poor guy would starve...or of course get some free publicity over the porn..However I am sure there is still a backroom in some video store in Sullivan.
You may of course cheer for any team you desire..remember me, I hate sports of all kinds.
I think my last years experience dealing with the little leagues has probably made me hate it anymore...Oh, it was not the sport itself, only the idiotic parents yelling at thier twelve year olds for making errors...pathetic...
Later Gator.

1208  Date: 2007-04-09 23:19:23
curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

That's okay Johnathon Paul etc. etc. We all have weak moments. Mine just happen to be Mon-Sun. But hey, you returned the post and fessed up. Good for you. Nobody care about immigration anymore? How about the fact we are getting slaughtered everyday in far away places? How about the guy in Cali wanting to open porn/tattoo place on the square? I know I would get work done there. He does really good work. Can't wait for the additions to the current and to get more. How is everything in San Diego and Colorado? And Florida? Go Diamondbacks!!

1207  Date: 2007-04-08 11:56:40
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

You are correct....I thought you said you did what you were told...my mistake, I should have found a 12 pack before I read it...LOL...You caught me in a weak moment..lucky dog...LOL....

1206  Date: 2007-04-07 22:21:22
curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

The point was said that someone was taught/told certain things and my reply was so was I. Did I listen always? Hell no. If I gave a crap about cold weather and the white crap that goes with it, I would be an old fat man sledding in greenhill. I have no problem with people sledding in greenhill. Young or old. FMC can have a problem with it and I'm okay with that.Here in St. Louis, it is cold. Very cold. Cutting the grass when it's in the 30's. I never was the brightest bulb in the box. Then again, I sled the graveyard. Go figure. Bullets?

1205  Date: 2007-04-07 06:32:22
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis, you always do what you are told when you are growing up? Say what? I so not recollect doing what I was told..not ofthen anyway...I suppose after a 12 or 20 pack, it would probably be an interesting thing to sled down an expressway..No sure, I always hated snow..;)

1204  Date: 2007-04-07 00:50:39
curtis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hey John, not squealling yet. That is subject to change however. Post1196, FMC: believe it or not, I WAS taught and told many things growing up in Sullivan. As a kid, you don't always do as told/taught. Traditions are just that. Traditions. For the love of the door knob, why is it such a big deal that kids are kids and will do kid things? Re-evaluate you and let the kids be kids. I re-evaluate myself after a 12 or 20 pack and am okay with sledding in the graveyard when I was a kid. No BIG deal. Funny, life happens. Frisby football in the IGA parking lot? Pert near every weekend when weather permitted. Also remember playing frisby in the old IGA parking lot as well. Met Felix Remi Velare DeStoop there. Used to work at the pig ranch in Bruce. Anyone know how I can reach him? Anyway, kids are kids, let them grow up. Bullets are still cheaper than a fence. Later

1203  Date: 2007-04-06 14:16:24
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Thanks Sircher,
This thing has been rolling around in my head for a long time...could not figure out where it came from or if I had simply gone of the deep end. :)....

1202  Date: 2007-04-06 05:55:48
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Yes, John I also heard this as a kid in Sullivan. I think it was just a naughty little ditty that the rascally boys liked to chant to the girls. I remember being teased a lot with stuff like it and some of it wasn't as nice as that one.

1201  Date: 2007-04-06 02:43:09
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I have to ask...
Has anyone ever heard this:
I love you big, I love you mighty
I wish my pajamas where next to your nighty
Now don't get excited and fall over dead
I mean on the clothesline and not on the bed

I know I heard it when I was a kid...but do not remember from where..

1200  Date: 2007-04-06 00:33:25
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Indeed they are....I cannot wait until he grows up...I hope he has one just like him....I hope the kid plays drums, guitar, and every other loud instrument imaginable...And I hope Chris lives in a non carpeted Sotello tile house. Being the proud grandfather I will be, the kid will have a drum set, an electric guitar, and I will of course provide a Saxophone for learning....funny part...also a PA system....

1199  Date: 2007-04-05 15:42:22
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John--Paybacks are hell huh? I love it when I see it happen to my grown kids and I never fail to mention it to them. LOL

1198  Date: 2007-04-04 23:25:12
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

FMC, as long as you are toasting the wine over my grave, what difference does it make. ;)
Me...not sure if I recollect tossing frisbee in an IGA parking lot, but remember playing at the park and a someone landing on me and making me walk funny for months. Might have been Curtis, not sure.
I recollect playing Cat and mouse in cars...(I saw a video on myspace the other day of a car driving around like crazy...I listened to the audio, and guess who got busted. My son"....He was not driving but was filming as a passenger...I guess this is my payback.

1197  Date: 2007-04-04 22:01:45
me ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Someone mentioned having a football in the back of the car. I remember frisbee in the IGA parking lot.
Anyone else?
Ah, riding around Sullivan-what a good time!

1196  Date: 2007-04-04 20:49:29
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Yes Curtis, traditions happen. Sorry that I'm not such a simple person that I take all traditions at face value and do not question them or wonder why they exist, or if I agree with them. I like to grow and learn as a person, and part of that is re-evaluating things I was/am taught/told throughout my life. I know, it's a foreign concept to many.

1195  Date: 2007-04-04 19:48:01
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Curtis,
What happened to you, I know you are living in the hills of Missouri but did the hill people capture you...I was scared you were off squealing like a pig someplace. ;)

1194  Date: 2007-04-04 01:31:32
curtis ( illinoy13@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:

Well, Well, Well, Been off here quite some time and must catch up. So many people and so many topics. I remember still being below 100 on the tote board. GOOD JOB GUYS AND GALS!! AWESOME!!!Post 1056: You were right. NCAA! Go who? Bears? Negative. Won $50 on that I also agree, Our work is in Mexico now so why are they here? And OBAMA 06! Post 1063: Hell yes it's a tradition. he MAMAs, The PAPAs. TRADITION! 1065:MORE THAN THE GUT!!!!!1066: yes, just a hill. 1070 much more went on there than sledding. 1073:DON'T come back then.!079:FMC, get over it, traditions happen. 1082 What a RICHARD, using my fence analogy to make a point, just wrong. 1092: Florida is also best for the Flora-Bama! Right Cath?1094: a lot of gas and the football in the rear shelf of the car, don't lie. And as you see, I have not been here awhile and will resume at a later date. Before I leave, one thing to say. Cathy is now in GRAD school and raising kids and all and I am SOOO proud of her. Good job sis. I LOVE you. Get a tatt drink a beer and be mad at someone. Works for me. Later folks and great job with the site.

1193  Date: 2007-04-04 00:58:31
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

It is indeed a bit of a drive. Drupal, open source stuff, One of the last bastions of folks actually helping each other build, instead of merely charging arms and legs for user fees...

Agri Fab has grown from my understanding, I no longer live in Illinois, however have been back a few times, and the last time I was there it would appear what was once a very small place has turned into a very big place. ....Indeed Agri-fab is where I worked and came home and said, "I don't want to get my hands dirty anymore, I am going to college"..I suppose I should thank them ;)....
I wish I could recollect the spam that I mentioned (Uhoh, that was probably a call to them ;))....

1192  Date: 2007-04-03 19:28:15
Bryan ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Woops - that wasn't the "USE" but the "UAE" down below.

1191  Date: 2007-04-03 18:46:40
Bryan ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

My website is messed up - I was messing around with making a drupal website (www.drupal.org), but the database must be messed up and then I just had other things to do. Shouldn't have included it if it was broken, I guess =)

No, I hadn't posted here before. My wife and I drove out to Sullivan just for the drive last weekend, and I was trolling the newsherald site out of curiosity about the town. I had a reel mower for a while (too much work) and had read about agri-fab reel mowers. It was the only thing that stuck inmy mind about Sullivan.

I have been to the USE before, though. I was changing planes on the way to India. With the troubles now, my wife and I flew the direct Chicago - New Delhi flight. She's from a small town in India.

We live in Staunton, which is a little further from Sullivan than I expected! That was a long drive, but pretty around Lake Taylorville and Lake Shelbyville.

1190  Date: 2007-04-03 05:20:30
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Perhaps I am confused. Did you send the Spam that was from the Arab Emerates before..(I mean the stuff that Rachel knocked off)..
I worked at Agri-Fab a long time ago, however I do not recollect the Wheel Mowers..Where are you from, I believe to get to Matalli.net one must..get there MSQLi extension for PHP...(what ever the heck that means)...

1189  Date: 2007-04-03 01:25:54
Bryan ( bryan@martalli.net / http://martalli.net) wrote:

No, my email's not from the UAE. I only know Kannada because my wife speaks it and what precious little German that stuck with me from high school. "Ich spreche keine Deutsch...Sprechen Sie English?"

If I'm a foreigner, its only because I'm not from Moultrie county. Sorry for that.

Do they still make those Agri-Fab reel mowers in Sullivan?

1188  Date: 2007-04-02 02:57:40
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Bryan of Martalli net the spam sent orginated from The United Arab Emirates.

1187  Date: 2007-03-31 01:39:34
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

LOL,
That is one of those things one will never know for sure...I did get around a lot in my youth. ;)
Only thing is Rachaels kind of cute and I have dominant genes....I am ugly, so it is doubtful ;)

1186  Date: 2007-03-30 16:43:26
Princess Leia ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Rachael, May the force be with you. I just hope we don't find that John is your father.

1185  Date: 2007-03-30 02:57:37
bryan ( bryan@martalli.net / http://martalli.net) wrote:

Hey I wasn't writing Arabic but Kannada

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/kannada

1184  Date: 2007-03-30 02:55:27
Bryan ( bryan@martalli.net / http://martalli.net) wrote:

hello sullivan
namaskaraam mattu shubh raatri

1183  Date: 2007-03-30 00:37:04
Johm ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

It would appear Rachel is the Guestbooks "star wars" system...Hey if it was good enough for Ronnie, its good enough for me. ')

1182  Date: 2007-03-29 16:43:59
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I think Rachel deleted it, there was spam from an Arab company....Alright Rachel, delete those puppies, she is our Anti Spam Missle control, when the Spam is see shooting its way into the Guestbook, she is knocking it out...USA USA USA USA..;)

1181  Date: 2007-03-29 14:50:36
Rachael ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Arabs, yes - I've been deleting the spam we are receiving on here. We've been getting alot lately.

1180  Date: 2007-03-29 03:39:12
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I'm with "me" - what Arabs?

1179  Date: 2007-03-29 03:23:22
me ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

what? arabs? what are you talking about? did i miss something? what?

1178  Date: 2007-03-28 18:50:16
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Oh look here come the Arabs again...

1177  Date: 2007-03-28 03:04:58
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

OOPS did not work...I was going to be a spammer;)

1176  Date: 2007-03-27 22:45:14
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

FMC...LOL, I was waiting..;)I knew it had to come sooner or later..

1175  Date: 2007-03-27 18:50:56
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Don't you mean "grammar" police? ; )
Sorry--spelling has always been my 'thing.' But bad spelling does not get on my nerves nearly as much as downright poor grammar, such as "I seen" something. That's just bad.

1174  Date: 2007-03-27 02:23:46
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Bad Boys Bad Boys..whatcha going to do ;)

1173  Date: 2007-03-27 02:02:51
me ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

So are the spelling police!! ;)

1172  Date: 2007-03-27 01:48:12
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

The what I seen thing kind of reminds me of Hank Hill...LOL, as well as the "thunking" part of things. :) RUN RUN..Grammer police are comming ;)

1171  Date: 2007-03-26 22:02:29
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

: )

1170  Date: 2007-03-26 17:28:53
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I thunk the same thing.

1169  Date: 2007-03-26 16:04:08
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

"what I seen..." Now that's classic. I haven't heard that in a while.

1168  Date: 2007-03-25 19:56:56
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

UGH!!! OK Sullivan is a great place to live. Nobody wants to move to Europe. Although going from Spain to Africa across the Mediterranean Sea is a trippy experience! You can see a line where the ocean and the sea meet. It's crazy. The blue and green come together and make a dark line. Pretty neat. Sorry, had to say it. Hope these idiots don't take it as a sign that we all want to take cruises there. Stop the insanity!!!!!

1167  Date: 2007-03-25 18:43:57
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Becareful what you say, now the spam people think everyone wants to move out of SUllivan and go to Europe...LOL

1166  Date: 2007-03-25 06:23:36
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I think Sullivan tries to keep up with the Joneses, but at what cost? I understand there's a mini spa-like place (massages, facials, etc) and a lot of hair salons. These are great. We all need help looking like the Joneses! But I really miss Les and Louises, The Bakery, etc. Small, hometown, family, friendly businesses. It seems those days are gone and that is really sad. They have been replaced with franchises and empty run down nothingness. I wish everyone could take pride in the city and make it what it could be. Living in a moderately large town in California, there are very few of the mom and pop establishments of old. I hate to think that Sullivan will end up being a little Modesto.

1165  Date: 2007-03-24 22:54:50
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Revrod,
I agree, it cannot be Walmart alone, the short sighted or greedy folks are the ones that opened the doors, however I am guessing their was a lot of the public that wanted the "Walmart" and other large stores to come it, again probably only because they did not have it. It seems that we often desire what we cannot have. As far as the business owners are concerned, I am willing to bet, many of them saw this comming and really did not want it to occur, but were caught up in the politics of it all.
However it happened, it is very clear when visiting that the destruction did indeed occur.

1164  Date: 2007-03-24 19:37:05
Revrod ( revrod_65@hotmail.com / no homepage) wrote:

While I agree that the downtown has become rundown, I believe that it was more of the short-sightedness of the community leaders and the business owners of 15 - 20 years ago that killed the business downtown. I remember the guy who owned the Index defeated about any competition he had until he eventually destroyed himself. I also believe when Coast to Coast came into the IGA area, it's lower prices broke True Value's business. And I believe that Moscenroe's (sp) Jewelry just didn't have the business for high-end jewelry. Some of the blame can be put on Wal-Mart, but not all. It can be attributed to the greediness and the short-sightedness of downtown owners past.

1163  Date: 2007-03-24 14:32:35
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

William,
As far what you see, I would suppose you are definitly on the Mark concerning what larger corporations like Walmart have done to small town american. I suppose that this is a mark of gluteny that we all might possess. I also have no doubt folks that OK companies like Walmart to come in and destroy the small town mom and pop shops tend to know this is one of the things that is going to happen in the future, but are so caught up in the momey that the Walmart (single entitiy) is going to bring to the areas that they forget just how many small businesses (plural entities) are going to be destroyed or affected.
My mother had a store in the downtown area and I remember just how delapidated the store was in the areas that actually needed the refurnishing. Unfortunately I think that folks attempt to fix things cosmetically instead of structurally...This is very close to the thinking that the folks that allow Walmart to step into the communities use. They seem to be more concerned about the "now" than the later. It appears to be somewhat of a flaw that these humans have in common.
I suppose they could of course be looking at the historicle significance of the buildings, but lets face it, I believe it would be a bit wiser if folks invested in the structure first...Its kind of like having a facelift when the body is filled with desease...you may look better, however because of the lack of treatment to the body (structure) you are going to die pretty. One has to wonder when folks will wake up.

1162  Date: 2007-03-23 23:02:16
William Braden ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well i am writing this due to no guestbook on your chamber of commerce website.I recently visited the city of sullivan a few weeks back while visiting family and friends.This was my first visit to sullivan in sometime and was not really impressed.What i seen was a town that wal-mart has destroyed much like other small towns through out the midwest.I walked around the downtown area and looked inside the numerous vacant buildings and noticed just how old this town is and thought to myself WHY IS THE OWNER SPENDING MONEY ON THE OUTSIDE WHEN THE BUILDING IS OBVIOUSLY NOT STRUCTURLY SOUND?? So as i kept walking and window browsing i ran into a middle aged gentleman that was very friendly i asked him who was doing the remodeling and who was the owners of the buildings that are for sale.He told me that businesses come and go here and the city is giving building owners tax money to remodel there buildings..Now i think to myself good idea but what a waste of taxpayer dollars.I was surprised the citizens of this town would allow that let alone be legal.But then the gentleman informed me that this is the economic development committee's doing.So i assumed that they were part of your city's government since they are messing with this "TIF"(tax money).But he informed me that no it is not affiliated with the city's governing policy.Quite odd to me but anyway i see a beautiful quiet retirement community that has felt the effects of major corporations cornering the market and eliminating the small man.It is a shame but this isn't just happening in your town it is happening all over the U.S.A.

By the way i have never seen a small community with so many hair salons and taverns.

By the way the barbershop i use to get my monthly flattop as a kid is still open.I couldn't belive it.A simple barbershop still open 40 years later.I inquired about the barber that trimmed my hair (ralph was his name) as to if he was still around and sadly i was told he had passed years ago.

Well in closing i was glad to come back and visit but very confused as to what i seen downtown.In closing i think the building owners or whomever are barking in the wind trying to update dilapedated buildings trying to compete with major corporations..

1161  Date: 2007-03-21 17:32:00
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Ahh Sircher, you have a life, perhaps everyone took up the spammers and bought the Viagra and assorted treats offered, and they are simply, "to busy" to post. I hear Viagra does that. ;)

1160  Date: 2007-03-21 04:54:04
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well John, its the pits when parents think of a good way to punish their child and it backfires isn't it? I can empathize with your wife on her lack of singing ability. My husband and kids used to laugh their heads off when I tried to sing. It really gave me a complex and to this day I only sing when nobody is within 10 miles. Well everyone has a fault and that is mine. Anyway all those good singers have to have someone to listen to them. John you must have scared the spammers away. They haven't posted in a while but then nobody else has either. Wish I had a life.

1159  Date: 2007-03-17 19:45:22
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

From my Blog:

You Know, I think I made a mistake.

I bought my wife an Ipod for Christmas, not really because she wanted it, but because my son wanted one and had not been very good. I thought this would be a much needed lesson in behavor modification..

Well, he was fairly upset that he did not get the IPOD, but managed to hide it well.

Linda, my wife, has strange ears, and the earbuds would not stay in so the Ipod sat in a drawer, only to be occassionally stolen out of the drawer by my son. He never made it a whole day..(My son is not good at that kind of stuff)...

My wife complained for a month that she could not listen to the IPOD because of the special ear thing going on.

So, it was her birthday on the 11th of this month, being the nice guy that I am, I bought her headphones. She was delighted. She could now listen to her hearts' content.

I was getting a kick out of it my son watching her rocking around the house and really getting into it. He was not pleased..

Then it happened. My son came in the room and sat down with a grin on his face. I asked him why he was pleased, he just smiled and said in his smug little teenage rat way, "Do I have to be happy to smile".

Suddenly I heard this noise comming from the other room. This strange noise sounded like someone was having a stroke and crying out for help. You know, not really getting the words out, just kind of forcing air and strange noises to get someones attention.

I did what anyone would do, I jumped up and ran into the other room, expecting to see my wife laying on the floor with half of her body limp. What did I find?

Nothing, my wife was walking around a room cleaning it and out of her mouth came this sound that is akin to a retarted cow getting raped by enraged Bull wearing steel on his hooves while dancing on a chalk board.

You see folks, my wife could not carry a tune to save her life..Honestly American Idol fans, even Paula would not find a good thing to say. Simon on the other hand would have a field day and probably stroke out from the sheer joy.

My wifes lack of singing ability, combined with very expensive noise cancelling headphone, and a high volume IPOD, creates a noise the devil himself (or herself) would run from...

The noise was so bad I wanted to put the IPOD, and the headphones in a blender, and then promptly kick my wife out the door..I thought quickly...perhaps I should simply talk my wife into letting Christopher have the IPOD...hell, I give up.

I walked out of the room, and Christopher was rolling on the carpet laughing. I was shuddering.

I then mentioned that it would probably would not be a bad idea to talk her into giving the IPOD to Chris...He looked at me and with a sheepish grin said, "Oh no dad, I could not do that, after all I am being punished right?",,He then went on to add, "I would not take that IPOD from mom for anything....isn't it fun teaching me lessons dad?

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

1158  Date: 2007-03-17 18:45:32
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I could not handle a teenager...LOL...I have a little yellow convertable...I think that is the extent of my midlife crisis...I have grown lazy. ;)

1157  Date: 2007-03-16 16:50:50
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John, that is interesting about the age of sexual consent. Being from IL, I never actually read the law but was always told that it was illegal for someone 18+ to be sexually involved with someone under 18, and that was all there was to it. But, I guess I don't have to worry about that any longer, being that I am now over 18 and married with no intentions of having an affair with a teenager!

1156  Date: 2007-03-16 00:59:11
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Oh forgot, here is an interesting one. A guy at work started dating his wife when she was 16, he was 19...Well, during the course of time, she got pregnant. They were married for 12 years, then they suddenly became involved in a divorce...Guess what she did? She turned around and had him charged him for the 'rape" that was inflicted on her during her 17th year...(This was what the outside would call consensual)...He is supposed to go before a judge..and plans to plea no-contest per his lawyer, because by the letter of the law he violated the law. He is just hoping the judge uses common sense.
My thought was "statute of limitations" but since it was cosidered a "rape" his has to go anyway. (This is Arizona, one never knows)..

1155  Date: 2007-03-15 21:08:10
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Interesting, concerning the consensual...in Arizona there is not such a thing as consensual sex for girls under 18...Even if they say yes..they cannot, if so the boy is liable...even if he is the same age...in Colorodo it is 17...according to laws today... http://www.coolnurse.com/consent.htm in fact, he can still go to jail for it because at 17, he has the right to have sex, she cannot, it is ilegal. Even if her mother was putting her on the platter for her boyfriend. Still ilegal
As far as killing anyone...I have not, however honestly I have been around long enough to know that if I did, I sure would not say.."er well, er,,once"
It is always a tough call to make, either killing someone quickly..(execution) or life in prison (killing someone slowly).
Being in the line of work I am, I have to say that the jury will decide, and of course at that time the Corrections facility will have to deal with it. Of course if you ask someone at the corrections facility, they will say the "state" is dealing with it...
I think that history has kind of shown that when dealing with locking people up or executing them, justice kind of gets turned into a bit of vengence..This I totally understand..I am not sure it is right, nor am I sure that it helps anyone..the victim, or those that were victimized by the act..However it is meant to prevent it from occuring again...(bad boys tend to be bad boys)...
The scary thing about doing things that are ilegal in life, is it really only takes one little movement of things happening to change ones life forever.
Think about it. Say one is to have two beers in an hours time...or takes a pain medication and goes to the store..Now suppose that someone jumps out in the street and you hit them, not neccessarly because you are under the influence, but simply because they came out of no where...
Bottom line, if you seem messed up, or smell of alchol at all, it is very likely you will be charged with Vehicular Manslaughter...now this does not mean you will get life..(depending on your age, life can be a short sentence)..but never the less you are convicted...Just over two beers and bad luck...
Or say for example you happen to be in a car with someone that has something ilegal...oh, they can claim it is theirs, but things happen.
Belive me, prisons are filled up with these type of folks..folks that are no different than you and I...just happened to make the wrong turn..
Oh do not get me wrong, I am far from being a bleeding heart...perhaps close to it, but working in what I work, I have been somewhat conditioned...however I am a bit of a realist I suppose.

1154  Date: 2007-03-15 17:54:51
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

The girl's mother (who was killed) was a bad alcoholic and pretty much neglected her daughter all her life (no father in the picture). So there is that to take into consideration as well. It doesn't justify the murder, but it might help to understand why it escalated to that point.
Well, I don't know about the statuatory rape charge, as he is 17 and she is 15...so technically their relationship is not illegal. Personally, I was 17 and my boyfriend was 15 when we started dating, and it was completely consensual (it's been 14 years and we are still together!). I think it is looked at differently if the guy is older.
I see the point of not being the same person after 18 years. I have definitely changed a lot over the years; I'd like to think it's for the better. But obviously we still have to punish people for their wrongdoings, and if it had been someone I loved that was murdered, I would likely want the perp. locked up forever. The person might change, but that does not change the fact that another life is gone forever. John you may have done some illegal things in your life, but (though I don't know you and can't know for sure) I would be willing to bet you never killed anyone. A lot of us have probably broken the law but in much more minor ways, not like killing or raping someone. Yeah, some tough decisions to be made here in this murder case.

1153  Date: 2007-03-15 16:37:11
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

FMC,
Quite disturbing I would say, however I find it even more disturbing that the story only shocks me a little, it should be a mind blower.
Either, I have worked in Law Enforcement or Society is going to hell in a handbasket..(perhaps a combination of them both).
As for trying them as adults, well frankly the boy who is nearly 18, should be tried as an adult..in my humble opinion..On top of the murder child they should probably stick a statory rape charge on him for dating the 15 year old. (I suppose I am harsh)..I would like to believe the 15 year old was influenced by the boyfriend..but honestly that is probaly a critical thinking flaw since typically girls mature faster than boys.
I say hang the boy, and stick the girl in for life.
One thing I can add to this from experience in the prison sytem...is that many times when a person gets a death sentence, or is convicted of a crime and gets a long time...after several years, the death penality seems a bit crazy...
A long time ago, I was doing a death watch. This is the watch that is conducted on an inmate for two weeks prior to exectution..I was working graveyard shift and every night this guy would stay up and talk to me. I guess he slept during the day and waited to vent.
During the course of the little watch the inmate asked me a question that kind of stuck...He had been on death row for 18 years so I suppose he had plenty of time to think..And saying anything to me would gain him nothing.
He looked at me after telling me he was sorry for what he did, but could not take it back and said, "What were you doing 18 years ago"...This stuck, because in all likely hood I was doing something that could have gotten my locked up...he then asked, "Where you the same person you were 18 years ago?" I did not respond, but this lack of response told him what I was thinking..of course I was not....food for thought.

1152  Date: 2007-03-15 16:07:41
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well there is a disturbing story in my local paper about the teens who killed the mom in Lafayette, CO and then buried her and dug her back up, tried to take her to a dump but the roads were too snowy, tried to dismember her body and failed, then finally left her in her car in the garage to rot for a month while the teens had a month-long party at her home. That is in the town right by me and has been the big talk for the last couple of weeks here. They are trying to determine whether or not to charge the teens as adults and there is a big debate about that. One of the kids (boyfriend of the murdered mom's daughter) is nearly 18 and the daughter is 15, and it looks like they will be tried as adults. It's been interesting to hear all the points of view on if they should be considered minors or adults. The story is horrible.

1151  Date: 2007-03-15 02:32:51
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

OK, so something has to be going on somewhere or someone must have something to say about something. It's too quiet on here!!

1150  Date: 2007-03-11 18:52:13
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

MORE VIAGRA YEA!!! COULD YOU IDIOTS PLEASE KEEP SPAMMING, PRETTY PLEASE....

1149  Date: 2007-03-10 00:57:14
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Ok now...give a physical description, what were they wearing, how did they dance, how did they hold their mike..LOL...

1148  Date: 2007-03-09 16:36:09
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

FYI - if you get the chance to see Christina Aguilera and/or the Pussycat Dolls, GO!! It was so amazing. I don't really listen to either of them, but they put on one heck of a show and they are awesome.

1147  Date: 2007-03-09 02:11:58
JOhn ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Folks watch what you click....Even the futon cover leads to a site that attempts to insert a tracker cookie,,,the thing also produces pop ups...

The rest is simply porn...

1146  Date: 2007-03-09 01:34:24
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Ok, this might be deleted by I learned a new word..
ass-orectomy. ....This is when your eye nerve is connected to you butt nerve, leaving you a crappy outlook on life...(I changed the words a bit to make it more paletable..

1145  Date: 2007-03-09 01:27:00
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

LOL...
Cathy, I think its funny, you thought that I thought you were upset...LOL...now your turn.
John, I think its funny that you thought that I thought that you thought that I thought you were upset...LOL, I wonder how many times once could right that..;) (of course continueing on with the directed course)...
Anyway, do not worry about exhaustion on my part, I am extremley lazy, ask my wife...I do not jump to much for anything..;)
Later gator

1144  Date: 2007-03-08 18:54:55
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John, it's funny that you thought I was upset or something when I was writing that. Not at all. I think we need to use emoticons or something so people don't infer meaning! I was simply trying to clarify why I said what I said. Slow down and take a breath yourself. Jumping to conclusions can be exhausting!! :0)

1143  Date: 2007-03-08 15:39:35
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

LOL...Slow down Cathy, slow down...LOL
I know you are better to look at then Steppenwolf..LOL...I never said you believed that you thought you were better to look at..where is that comming from girl? LOL...I just said you said nothing about thier playing...Ok..take a breath...LOL...
Now that you mention they were playing in slow motion...looks like perhaps they ought to do what they did back when they were popular..it would likely speed the song up..LOL...
As far as Aguilara and the Pussy cat dolls...I am sure the view will be better...No really into either one of them...but eye candy is the only true lo cal candy there is..LOL...
My bet is that if you toss some money in some machines when you them, you will win big....making the winning more important than the watching..;)

1142  Date: 2007-03-08 06:55:14
cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

hey, i'm just telling you not to waste your money, but if you are into that sort of thing, waste away. the sound wasn't as bad as the look, but it seemed as if they played everything in slow motion. it took forever for every song to end. i'm not trying to judge them by their looks or trying to say i am anything better to look at. i am simply presenting the facts as i see them. they were not good and i had more fun losing money on the machines. period. i am going to see christina aguilara and pussycat dolls tomorrow night. sure to be a better time!

1141  Date: 2007-03-08 03:13:05
JOHN ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hmm, Poor Steppenwolf...but to be totally honest with you, I would imagine a lot of people that heard them before, would not remember anyway..I suppose it was the days and the times. Ah..break out an album..can't really do that it would not be fair..A good sound person could probably make me sound like Americans next idol..
As far as the looks fading..well, hell, I can not say much, I was never that pretty, and believe me it never got better..;)
When we discuss microphone twirling, I suppose that could be dangerous..but go back in time, I would not doubt if you would cringe if you knew what the lead singer was doing before the concert..Lucky he was able to hold on to the microphone back then...
Perhaps the tounge sticking out thing is a tick. LOL, and interesting one at that.
The one thing you did not mention during your little review was probably the most important part..
Can you guess whats missing.....times up...
They are a band..how did they sound...again remembering that the mixing board more than likely did most of the tricks when they were popular.

Please Cathy, do not come to my work and judge my abilities based on my looks...I will get fired..LOL.................lighten up, I am teasing;) (I saw a hole and I had to go at it)...(now I will crawl back in my hole)....

Toodles

1140  Date: 2007-03-07 17:55:20
cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

have fun in florida travis. i love it down there. the kids consider pensacola to be their hometown because we lived there longer than anywhere else when they were younger. (military, moving, etc)they all want to go back there someday.

Note to all...don't go see Steppenwolf. If you have fond memories, let them be the ones you remember forever, not new ones.

i, too, am off to lose money this weekend. going to reno to a tattoo convention and plan to do some hours at the wheel of fortune quarter slots. woo hoo. lost a couple hundred last week when hubby and i went to jackson casino and saw Steppenwolf. buy fyi - losing money was more fun that sitting through the concert. holy crap. people need to know when to pack it up already!! there is something really wrong when the john kay (or whatever the lead singer's name is) is swinging the mic around by the cord and we were afraid it wouldn't make it around the whole circle without coming back down from lack of inertia. it was so bad. And the keyboard player needs to NOT stick his tongue out like Gene Simmons. First of all, the guy is how old? late 60s? and weighs Maybe 100 pounds. And those of you who know how much hair I have will be able to picture this. He had about as much hair as me (very thin!!) but it was past his shoulders. not quite blond, not quite gray. not attractive. we left before they even sang Magic Carpet Ride. we were laughing and gagging too much to sit through anymore!

1139  Date: 2007-03-07 17:24:41
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Travis,
In reality, methinks many people are simply ignorant and enjoy the bliss that encompasses them. People do not want real news. They want gossipy crap news. This is of course why the Enquirer, and the star are so successful.
What really strikes me as odd, is that the Washington Post even covered Anna Nichols Death...this is one instance where small town news papers might have actually one the battle of better journalism...I cannot see the Progress bothering with it..or did they (I do not get the paper, unless mom brings it over)
People will say of course, "I only read those for entertainment", we all know that is BS..They want to read it because they want to learn about the Elvis sitings, the baboons born to the backwood banjo playing beauties, and of course the fornification that occurs during a UFO abduction.
Although you and I might want to really know whats going on, I have a tendency to believe that we are in the minority.
What is todays priorities of modern day journalists? It is my belief that the priortiy is getting readers, this has never change.It is the priority of the average reader that has probably changed. If this was not true, it is doubtful the wonderful Journalists and their institutions would not still be in business.
Just an opinon as humble as it might be. ;)
You like florida, or just like losing money and participating in non-church like behaviors.

Bobby...can you get rid of the idiot spam?

1138  Date: 2007-03-06 19:27:57
travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John nothing would please me more then staying in florida as my wife feels the same.
I swear ever since i got a job promotion all i get to see now is the news due to the time of day i get off work.I am so sick and tired of this anna thing..I mean come on people we have kids getting killed over seas..I think that is a lil more important than some wanna be marylin monroe gal who has been boarded more times then a U.S NAVAL SHIP.Sometimes i wonder where the priority's of the modern day journalist is.Any hooo what is up with all these spamers?Bobby not checking the book anymore??

1137  Date: 2007-03-06 01:43:05
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Travis,
I would say it has been a while. Perhaps while in florida you could pick up some viagra...I will buy it from you, but you are an american..;).....
Your the daddy...rock on with that, I was keeping my mouth shut...I would be careful, you might have that neat mother in law moving in with you ;)
Becareful in Florida...last time I was there I ended up staying over a year...losing most of my money...and particpating in non church like behaviors..;)

1136  Date: 2007-03-06 00:45:30
travis ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

hello..just wanted to say hey..Been a while..I see that sexually frustrated illegal immigrant spamers have taken over the book..
Leaving for Florida in a few weeks for annual vacation..Going to make a stop in hollywood florida at the hard rock to snap a few pictures of room 607.Oh yeah i am the father of anna's baby..

1135  Date: 2007-03-05 06:38:46
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Good god stop it...Nobody wants the viagra...perhaps they need it, however they do not want it..'_)

1134  Date: 2007-03-04 08:01:44
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Here sircher

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/local/43554.php

1133  Date: 2007-03-04 05:58:25
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Revord.
I have a tendency to agree with you, but the click thing is world wide...oh and Sircher, I have been on the net for years also, but in earlier years we did not have the same filters built into our systems are programs..I would venture to say the spam is perhaps even more than it was, but our filters and blockers are a lot more affective..
I could of course be wrong..so I will not rant and rave..;)

1132  Date: 2007-03-04 05:55:26
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I can look into it with a bit more depth and let you know..
I know we have had inmates in isolation because of TB..(TB is prevelant in prison systems even today).This happens in prisons all over the country, but I have never seen it publicized..a panic thing I believe. .However I have not heard of any sanitium thing going on...I will check

1131  Date: 2007-03-03 22:00:03
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

John, living where you do,you may have more to worry about than a spammer being from Russia. I read an article yesterday about the guy with dual Russian-USA citizenship that is being kept in isolation in the Phoenix area because he has a very contagious form of TB. He hasn't been arrested, or charged with anything and doesn't know when or if he will ever be released. What is the scoop on this guy? He supposedly doesn't get to use the phone or have a tv or anything and has been locked up for 8 months. He has a very deadly form of TB he brought from Russia. I think I was reading this on digg.

1130  Date: 2007-03-03 21:45:54
Revrod ( revrod_65@hotmail.com / no homepage) wrote:

I think this is one of those "pay-per-click" scams where they hit hundreds of these guestbooks and get paid a penny every time someone clicks onto one of these sites. As hard up as it is in Russia, they probably could buy a lot with an American penny (LOL)

1129  Date: 2007-03-03 21:27:56
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sircher, I think they are hiding..or perhasp the russians have kidnapped them and waiting for use to purchase Viagra, or perhaps rent an escort.
The spammer systems are fairly completely automated..mail. ru is a free mail service out of russian...However, they are of course supported in other ways...(seach engines, hits on other websites..(some probaly owned by them).

1128  Date: 2007-03-03 04:36:02
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well John, It is not me. There may be a lot more people that comes to this guestbook than those of us that post on it but it seems like a very limited audiance to try to sell to. And I have been wondering how someone not familiar with this area would even be aware of this guestbook. That leads me to believe the spammer must be someone from Sullivan, or surrounding area, or a former citizen is responsible. I believe the mail.ru is a free email service. I have been doing this internet thing for over 10 years now and I just don't pay any attention to the spam. Its really not as bad as it was a few years ago.
By the way where did everyone go the last couple of weeks? Somebody come up with a good topic for us to discuss.

1127  Date: 2007-03-02 16:24:01
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hey one never knows, perhaps Guest book visitors are spending money on all this stuff..LOL...I know I have not..Come on now folks, stand up and admit it, who is the buyer in here that is generating so much international attention. ;)

1126  Date: 2007-03-02 06:45:43
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

obviously they don't get paid too much cuz they have to keep doing it over and over and over and over...!

1125  Date: 2007-03-01 21:37:09
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Bobby...
Here they come again...This time, porn...and again pharmicutals...Too much...I wonder how much they get paid to slam crap in guest books...

1124  Date: 2007-02-28 06:39:54
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy,
I just love your solutions. Gave me a good laugh. I always appreciate a good laugh. Makes me feel better.

1123  Date: 2007-02-27 21:04:55
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Oh Man,
Bobby, can you delete these russians attempting to provide escorts and attempting to sell fake viagra to the masses. It could be a plot to slowly take over the News Progress, Sullivan, Moultie county, Illiois,Unitied States and finally leading to World domination..Come on they are comming...Attempting to get us to mate with indivuals with questionable backgrounds..

Ok Cathy, You have solved the problems with Immigration, hurricanes and wild animals..What can we do about the vicisous spam attacks by the Russians and their long range goal to take over the world..I know you have something that can be done...For gods sake, save us know before we are doomed for all eternity.

1122  Date: 2007-02-27 17:35:26
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Maxine on Border Control.....
Everyone concentrates on the problems we're having in this country lately; illegal immigration, hurricane recovery, wild animals attacking humans in Florida. Not me. I concentrate on solutions to problems. The result is a win-win-win situation:

+ Dig a moat the length of the Mexican border
+ Use the dirt to raise the levies in New Orleans
+ Put the Florida alligators in the moat.

Any other problems you would like for me to solve today?

1121  Date: 2007-02-26 19:33:44
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Oh, Lookee the russians are now courting the Guestbook readers.. see www.mail.ru.com ...

1120  Date: 2007-02-21 17:57:41
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Pudge,
I am proud of Burl, as far as him getting in trouble...I think he was attempting to keep up with me...but alas, I kind of think I won..not sure.
Burl tells me that one of the reasons he did make Sgt was because of Crandell
Burl being stuck in a garbage can..LOL,,,he has seen worse. One day years ago I was visiting from Chicago, he said something that was just a bit on the inappropiate side and I just said, "Ok, I will reward you for that sometime" About three hours later he fell asleep watching TV with his mouth open. I dumped an entire bottle of tobasco sause down his thoat...He jumped up screaming that he was going to kill me...Funny thing, I looked at him straight in the eye, and started to believe it. He was bigger than me, and in all likely hood could...However I stood my ground and said, "jump"...the big brother thing came over him and he backed down..it was a close call...
As far as Burls smart mouth..he comes by it quite honestly..He kind of had to put up with a lot growing up, and it kind of was a defence mechinism that he built himself...Nobody where he lived dared to mess with me.
I can recollect years and years ago, kids were picking on him, and in all honesty he was outnumbered. He did not stand a chance. He was very young at the time (I am twelve years older)..He came in with tears in his eyes and mad as all get out because there were just too many of them...Well brother John did a bad thing (or a good thing depending on who you are)..I went out and bought him a baseball bat...and said, "Happy Birthday, this is not for hitting balls"...He got the point and I am not positive if he used it or not, but the fact is, the nonsense stopped....Kids do really dumb things...
Cathy, I agree bald is beautiful...and at least it is her head people are seeing now, and not other parts of her anatomy...;)

1119  Date: 2007-02-21 15:39:41
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

What do ya think about Britney? She may be a little screwed up right now, but all I can say is.. Bald is Beautiful!!!!!! :0)

1118  Date: 2007-02-21 12:29:22
Pudge ( stotalot@hotmail.com / http://myspace.com/stotalot) wrote:

To everyone I would like to say "Hi." I went to Bethany High School until 1989 when I moved up north to Fairbury. I spent most of the last 3 hours scanning through the messages and it was just cracking me up.
John you're a riot. I see where Burl gets it from. I found him on myspace and talked to him a while back. You should be very proud. Im proud right now to know him. Funny thing is Burl was always getting into trouble, I too found it funny that he is now a Sgt in the Army. It doesn't surprise me much. After going through Basic Training myself, I told everyone," If you could go through one of Coach Crandall's football practices you could do anything." Crandall made of better people.
You all were talking about spanking in school. I only got spanked once. Why, you ask. In fourth grade I stuck Burl upside down into a wastebasket and locked his feet in the hinged top for smarting off, which by the way Burl always seemed to be very good at. The teacher kept asking where he was and nobody said a word. Then you could hear him yelling from down the hall for help. It was funny but I deserved that one.
One of the other things I saw was Shotgun Manor, its all a myth. I believe this due to the fact I moved over a 100 miles away and guess what. There is a Shotgun Manor here too. As for Camp Cumberland, its not haunted. Yes there was a group of us that sat out there and partied and camped out all the time. As well as play pranks on others coming to check things out.
Talk to you later.

1117  Date: 2007-02-20 19:15:57
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Strange stuff,,This is actually another pharmicy site...as well as a porn site...Check out the Blog address...

1116  Date: 2007-02-20 17:41:28
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Shouldn't someone edit the names of these people? Good grief!

1115  Date: 2007-02-20 15:24:30
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy, I probably ought to do the same thing, but in reality, I really do not have to worry about baked goods, never really liked them...My problem is Potatoes, Pizza and Pasta...The three Ps..LOL
Dan,
Interesting group to have respected...
Jim Baker, I can still imagine him huddled under a desk in a fetal position proclaiming,,"Oh god I have sinned"..
Bush...Hmm, nothing to say about that guy...except possibley "Loser"
Tammy Faye...You know she would have died a few years ago when someone shot her in the head..thank goodness for her make-up.

Who do I respect: Dan for speaking his mind. ;)

1114  Date: 2007-02-20 05:53:24
Dan ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

There are only three people I have respected down through the years.

Jim Bakker....I like him because he never drove anything but a Cadillac. Now that's style, my friends.
Bush....I like Bush because he knows when to go after something. He is a winner.

Tammy Faye....I like Tammy because she knows how to dress. Them clothes cost a fortune, but she got style!!

Who do you respect?

Dan

1113  Date: 2007-02-20 02:55:30
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sircher, the world's best bakery was in Sullivan on the square. Unfortunately, they are no longer there, which seems to be the fate of all good businesses from the olden days. They had the best donuts I have ever had and I can't seem to find anything that even compares. Of course, I am now dieting since I bet Curtis $100 I could lose 30 pounds by June 2nd. Hey Curtis - I started the diet in earnest last Monday and have lost 6 pounds and lost 2 1/2 inches off my waist. Not bad for one week. So, yeah... no donuts for me for a while!!

1112  Date: 2007-02-19 19:18:08
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hmm what is highering...I suppose it should be hiring...lol

1111  Date: 2007-02-19 07:58:38
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hey Folks the spam just received in post 1110 leads to the following website (Notice BellaStones website listed: chelentatr@gawab.com

Company / About Gawab.com
Gawab.com is a leading e-mail service provider worldwide, and the first in the Middle East to provide websites with fully outsourcing e-mail solutions.

Gawab in Arabic means a "letter", and this is what we have been providing to our users; letters through cyberspace or better known as email..

Launched in November 2000, Gawab.com has been a fast growing service with a well-established reputation in the market. The service has attracted more than 4,741,300users and 25,009 websites, after three years of its operation and it is still growing at a much faster rate now.
Gawab.com has been awarded:
September 2004
One of the Top 2000 websites worldwide and one of the Top 10 websites in the Middle East region.
[According to Alexa.com]
September, 2004
One of the Top Ten visited websites in Saudi Arabia
[According to King Abdulaziz Internet City - The Main ISP provider in the kingdom]
January, 2004
The favored choice of Arab users after Hotmail & Yahoo
[According to a survey conducted by Baramj.com, with a sample of 5900 participants]



It would appear the News Progress Guestbook as a good place to market from the Middle East. The link in the spam indicates a place that is a search engine. (Pharmacy search)

Sircher
I remember Glen Braden. The only restaurant I worked in on the square was Les and Louiseís.LOL, as a dishwasher...for a short period.
I think cops were easy to deal with, I had quite a few that swore they would get me, (probably had good reason back then) I have to say that a cop in Sullivan never mistreated me. I was told to "Get the hell home or I am calling your mom" more than once, and that seemed to suffice.
I have seen the MSNBC shows, quiet a few. I also believe I was in one of them..it concerned an execution. I was just in the background during one of the shots...
There are indeed a lot of low IQ folks and mental cases on the inside. It would appear that this is Americaís solution for getting the crazy people off the streets, since there are fewer intuitions for the mentally ill on the outside. As for the low IQ folks..lol, typically it is not the smart ones that go to prisons, it seems there place is often getting away with crimes.
I should state I have met people with low IQ people on both side of the bars in a prison..LOL...I have of course met people with High IQs on both sides as well...

As for the folks at Gawab..it would seem that money would best be vested in demographic studies, so the company does not have to deal with the cost of highering little folks to carpet bomb the web with your worthless search engine. Yeah, thats I all need is a email that heads back to the middle east..Lousy timing folks..

1110  Date: 2007-02-19 04:36:24
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Oh yes John I now remember you telling about your son trying to built a snowman. I had forgotten about that. It has warmed up quite a bit here but we are supposed to get more rain tonight and Monday.I really don't like the rain much either. I know its good for the plants and grass but I hate everything being soggy after it rains.
No, I supposed the square will never recover and be like the "good old days". I worked at a restaurant, as a teenager, that was on the east side of the square but I don't remember it's name. It was quite a hangout for the kids. The sheriff, Glen Braden used to tease me that he was going to arrest me someday cause he knew I was driving without a license. Couldn't get away with stuff like that now. Heck, I didn't get my drivers license till I was 22 and I drove from 16 on. Cops weren't so mean with kids in those days but then that was before all the drugs. I got quite a shock about cops when we moved to California, because if they stop you then they will usually give you a ticket. But of course everyone speeds and never a cop in sight and if you call them about an accident they tell you if there is no injury then they are not coming out and you should just make a report.
John do you ever watch msnbc tv when they show all the prison stuff? I watch that a lot. There really is a lot of low IQ people and a lot of mental people in prison.

1109  Date: 2007-02-18 17:08:18
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sircher,
It has warmed up a bit more here, but has not got to 86 degrees.
It did snow a while back in Phoenix, enough to just accumulate on the ground for a few minutes. It was kind of outragious since it really never does that in Phoenix. The closest we really get normally is either nice size hail or "slush rain"...
I am afraid if they want the court house built up again it is going to take some entepreneurs and some intestinal fortitude...It appears rather vacant now.

1108  Date: 2007-02-18 01:42:41
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Hello everyone! The sun is back hurrah!! 86 degrees today. Almost too hot for yardwork. I'm not complaining though. I talk to my daughter in Illinois and my sister in Indiana and I know the weather they have been having.BRRRR!!! I hope it warms up before time for my trip back to Sullivan this spring. Cathy, where is this best bakery in the whole world located? Did it go out of business or what? John, I was talking on instant messenger to a friend in Tucson a couple of days ago and she said they a gotten some snow a while back. Did you get any of that in Phoenix? I was really surprised to hear about it but she was happy about it, being one of those kids that grew up in Arizona. Well southern Arizona,cause northern gets plenty of snow. Revrod, I also miss the Index store when I visit Sullivan. It was there a really long time. I remember going to it when I was a little kid and that was a long time ago. But it has been gone for several years hasn't it? And of course Dunscomb's has always been there too. Sure isn't going to be much left around the square is there? You guys aren't old enough to remember but the square was quite a meeting place on Saturday's. A little shopping and talking to all your friends. Kids played on the courthouse lawn. I sure wish they could get the area around the courthouse square built up again.

1107  Date: 2007-02-17 04:20:07
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Cathy, I am willing to bet you will survive without doughnuts...or did you inherit that cop thing..;)

Tiffany,keep desiring that snow in Missouri, perhaps you can will it out of Illinois and into Missouri..but could you do me a favor..Let Missouri be its last stop..My back cannot handle shoveling anymore...;)

1106  Date: 2007-02-16 15:35:55
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

i'm still upset that the world's best bakery is gone

1105  Date: 2007-02-15 19:57:48
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Revrod,
It seemed when I went up there about 6 months ago, things were a bit on the deserted side.

1104  Date: 2007-02-15 18:07:42
revrod ( revrod_65@hotmail.com / no homepage) wrote:

It truly is sad to see another of the institutions of Sullivan close -- but my hat goes off to Rick and Connie Dunscomb for keeping the Dunscomb Furniture store open for so many years. I can remember the days growing up when you could go up to the square and see Dunscomb Furniture, the Spot Restaurant, Dick Isaacs and the True Value Hardware as well as the Index store. Although the Index was always overpriced, I miss those "mom and pop" stores. The square isn't the same anymore -- and that is a crying shame...

1103  Date: 2007-02-15 01:41:55
Tiffany Broyles ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I wish we had this snow in Missouri !!!

1102  Date: 2007-02-14 18:03:49
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sircher,
It has been raining here a bit, although it is strange, bad thing about rain in the desert is it seems to smell like rot, instead of how it smelled back east..kind of cleansing then.
I tend to agree with the winter thing, it would be a tough thing to handle. I have not been exposed to that kind of weather in over a decade (Exception of course funerals)...
I tend to also agree that one would definelty have to specialize with something in or very close to Sullivan in order to make a decent buck..
People in California were buying three or more houses at a time out here..However toward the end I think a lot of folks lost out. One example is the home I am renting. I was told last year that I would have to move this year in March because the California owner was selling it..Much to his chagrin the house has dropped by over close to a 100k in value..OOPS..I guess he will not be selling it soon.
Sircher I will attempt the Pizza, I tend to run away to San Diego every now and then and good pizza is hard to find.
As far as the Mexican Food, I could live easily without it...I suppose every now and then it is nice but when we first moved out here, it seems that I had enough to lose my desire...Too much of a good thing can be bad.The totillas I avoid..way to many carbs for me..

1101  Date: 2007-02-14 07:04:03
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Rain,rain go away, go to some other state. Maybe Arizona, they can always use some rain. It's been raining off and on for 2 days now and I have cabin fever. LOL I was going to take a day trip to the desert property today but when I got up it was raining so I put it off for another day or two. Got to get over there and make sure no one has homesteaded the place.
FMC, we enjoy reading your posts so don't stop. It's just nice to write back and forth about what I still call "home" although I've been gone many, many years. Of course after I got a little older I went home fairly regular to see my mom. At a younger age I was not so good at that. I remember once when we were in Yuma Arizona my mom sent the cops to tell me to call home. Yuma was much smaller than it is now and the cops found me. Don't know if they could do that now. Yuma has grown a lot since I lived there. And as you said John, so has Phoenix. I never lived there but have had friends in the area for many years that I have visited plus going through there on the way to Sullivan.A lot of that is people moving out of this high priced California. Well FMC and John it sometimes sounds like we all kind of long for the peace and quite of the small town at times. But I think one summer would be enough for me. I know I can't stand the cold winters there so it can only be a summer place for me. Being older the work thing is no problem for me but I doubt a decent paying job could be had without going to Decatur or Champaign.
John if you want some really good pizza, the next time you come to San Diego get off I-8 at the little rural wide spot in the road called Flynn Springs. There go to Bongiovonni's. It's the pizza I dream about when I am out of state. Also miss very much good mexican places to eat in Illinois. Mexican is my very favorite food and I can't even buy decent tortilla's back there to make my own.

1100  Date: 2007-02-13 16:59:42
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

FMC, never get tired of your postings. I have wondered the same about the job and going back to Sullivan. The housing I am not concerned with because the prices are so low. As far as Monicals go, perhaps it is because I am from Chicago, and my exposure to pizza at an early age kind of made me compare the pizza at Monicals to what I had been used to..but YUK.....I liked the place back when Bill Fulk owned it..(My grandmother used to go in early in the morning and make the dough)..Good old Violet Anderson. AKA Granny.
After I tasted the Ham and pinapple pizza...that was enough for me...Good god, that is not what one puts on pizza. (Opinion only).
Sircher:
Phoenix has gotten impossible as far as the highways are concerned. The place grew to fast without proper planning. To make matters worse the Urban sprawl and the realestate boom filled the highways because folks started driving from 40 to 60 miles away..(you could at one time by two brand new houses for the price of one in Phoenix)..
Funny thing about locking car doors. I drive a 1979 MG midget...no locks, it is a convertable..I have not had trouble yet, but I keep it garaged. Once my wife and I stayed in Mesa at a hotel, and I kept getting up and looking out the window to make sure it was still there..
I have the bad habit that I picked up in Sullivan of not locking my doors in the house, fortunately I have a wife and two kids that do not have that habit and tend to say, "Dad you forgot to lock the door"...and they lock it. (Wife says John)...LOL..

1099  Date: 2007-02-12 18:04:45
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I should just wait to write until I read everything that's on the board. Sircher--I too could have a house that is paid for if I would move back there. At times it's been tempting, especially when the traffic and noise start to get to me. And I think I might be able to do it...for a few months. But then I would be going out of my skull with boredom. People I know where I live now say I am crazy for not going back to live in a house that is paid for, as out here the housing is way overpriced. But they don't know just how little there is to do there and how far one must drive to get anywhere, etc. I have no idea what kind of job I could get, unless I want to drive to somewhere like Decatur or Charleston or so every day. So that's a big part of not moving back.
O.K.--I'm sure you are all sick of my numerous postings by now.

1098  Date: 2007-02-12 17:33:52
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Ooooo...those huge oatmeal and oatmeal/raisin cookies from the Cadwell store! Those were the best! I was talking to my mom recently and I said 'what if i had to move back' because I am a strict vegetarian and buy all organic and she said 'well what about the amish' meaning that I wouldn't have to worry about horomones and chemicals that are so prevalent in mass production these days. I could get fresh dairy and vegetables without the worry if I got them directly from an Amish farm. The Amish culture is one of the most interesting facets of that area. I wish I would have been more interested in learning about their culture while I was there.

1097  Date: 2007-02-12 17:25:01
Former Moultrie Countian ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Oh yeah--sircher--if ever in Sullivan again, you SHOULD eat at Monical's (well, if you like pizza at all). It is not like a Monical's chain (or at least it never WAS, unless it changed). I remember when it was Big Jim's (YEARS ago!) and the pizza still tastes the same. It is GOOD stuff! On the rare occasion I go back to Sullivan, I make it a point to eat there, as do my other family members who no longer live in the area. It's worth checking out!

1096  Date: 2007-02-12 04:55:35
sircher ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Well Cathy and John, I don't know if mythbusters are wrong or right but I remember what John is talking about and they really cracked down on the people shooting off guns around here. Maybe they didn't check it out on a childs skull which I would think would not be as thick as an adults. I know some people whom I think have really thick skulls. LOL
Now I said before there was nothing in Sullivan when I was growing up there and this will tell you what I meant. There was no Monicals,no big loss though cause I've eaten their pizza, Dairy Queen was just an ice cream stand and of course no Hardy's or Mickey D's. Oh yeah, I don't think Switchcraft was there either.
Cathy, what you said about taking off on your bike and feeling safe in Sullivan is exactly why my daughter moved back to that area. Plus getting away from her ex. She grew up in this city but she hated it and she loves the rural midwest, snow and all. Does not get that from her mother or father. We hated that snow and cold. And that is the big reason I don't move back to Sullivan, into my moms house, which may not be great but it's paid for.
I live in a very safe neighborhood, however I automatically lock my front door as I come in and my back door stays locked all the time. It's just a habit you get into when you live in a big city. Same with automatically locking car doors as you shut them. Years ago we stopped at the Cadwell store(my husband grew up there and knew all the Amish) and as usual we locked the car doors. One little Amish boy quietly asked his dad why we were locking up our car. It's just a habit you do without thinking. From what I can tell on my visits to Sullivan it hasn't changed much as far as safety. A lot more traffic than there used to be just 6 or 7 years ago. But still nothing like I'm used to. And as for Phoenix, it has gotten terrible for traffic. A couple of days after Christmas I was visiting friends in Scottsdale and that bypass 101 and I-10 was practically bumper to bumper in the middle of the afternoon. Can't imagine what it looks like at rush hour. I usually use that route to get to Flagstaff on my way to Sullivan but I choose to go at night to beat the heat.

1095  Date: 2007-02-11 03:33:41
Cathy ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

I was watching mythbusters and they said a bullet coming down could not penetrate the skull. Guess they never heard of Shannon.

1094  Date: 2007-02-10 18:05:15
John ( no email / no homepage) wrote:

Sircher:
My circles went from around Monicals, then around Dairy Queen. Then back perhaps out towards Switchcraft, then back perhaps around the park, through the school parking lot over and over and over again..good god I used a lot of gas.
I have to say, I do not think I was ever really looking for a date when I was driving around..I think I got that at work..LOL..
The colorado river place sounds like a neat place to escape from it all, at least in the winter..The summer, good god you can have it.
As far as those mean when I was younger, I kind of think that stuff all went away years ago as I got older..Have to say it would probably be a pretty good life living in a small town with a good salary..When I lived in or around Sullivan, I never really made good money..Just survived.
I am guessing it would be a bit odd runnig the jail in Sullivan only because there is a good chance I would run into someone I once knew. LOL...That has not happend in Arizona prisons, however I have met inmate from Decatur, and surrounding areas..
Cathy I am not sure if there still is a place that is as safe as Sullivan was in those days. My kids kind of get the same treatement as far as going places. I am a lot more leniant than there mother is when it comes to my 15 year (16 in August) going places. In my head he is kind of a Survior. He kind of gets around using the bus system pretty well. My youngest is stuck close to home all the time, my wife has a problem letting him burst out of his kid role..I again, am a bit more leniant in that area.
I remember going back and living in Chicago,,good god New years Eve sounded like a war outside. I even have a tape of it someplace.
Moving to Phoenix was a real shocker when it came to gunfire..heck people can carry them legally. And New Years Eve here sounds really crazy, worse than Chicago..They even have a law called "Shannons" law that bans shooting guns in the air because a few years ago, a little girl was out playing and some idiot shot a gun in the air..What goes up, must come down and I Believe it went right through her head killing her instantly..shameful and stupid...Amazing what a gun in the hand of some can do and